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GyroZeppeli

@CanisWolfred I believe it was referring to your conversation with Heavyarms, I didn’t quite understand it. The only reason it’s definitely meant here was bc he mentioned Anime News Network and how the didn’t want this thread become like that site.

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i mean i agree, i was there for the horrific "but what if video game had boobs?!?!" discussions, but i'm also not randomly paranoid and yelling about sjws like a deranged hobo shrugs

...at least last i checked i haven't

but speaking of anime, Kaguya-sama is really good, but I think it would have to almost TRY to not be just based on the premise alone. It has one of the best premises for a show, I swear. It's not a perfect comparison, but Death Note: The Romantic Comedy was how I saw it described in particular, which is also amazing (and also probably most of the fanfics :V)

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Heavyarms55

@GyroZeppeli I still don't see how anything either @CanisWolfred or I said would be SJW or political. Seems like there was quite a bit of misunderstanding going on. Which is such a shame as all I wanted to do was talk about two recent anime that I absolutely love.

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GyroZeppeli

@Heavyarms55 I don’t see how it’s political either. Probably something only Tsurii knows.

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Heavyarms55

Okay everyone, shut up about everything else and lets get back to being nerds! Anime: GO!

Any other Gundam fans on this site?

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lolwutTM

I’m not a Gundam fan, but I kinda wanna be? I just don’t know where to start because it seems like there’s so many different Gundam series, and then I just give up lol.

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Heavyarms55

@lolwutTM The place I always encourage people to start is Gundam 00. Many different Gundam series exist on an interconnect storyline that makes an overall series comparable to Naruto or Dragon Ball in size. But Gundam 00 is one of a small sub-set of Gundam shows that exists entirely on its own, with no connections to other shows and is a comfortable 50 episodes + one movie. Despite it being 10 years old now, the animation quality holds up very well, and it has some awesome music. It's not the most brutal story, but it does cover some fairly dark topics at times.

If you did want to get into the main timeline/shared universe, I'd be happy to give you the "die-hard Gundam fan's suggested watching list".

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@Heavyarms55 Oh wow, yikes. I didn’t realize they were all interconnected like that. Pretty cool, but also very daunting. I’ll definitely check out Gundam 00 then, since you say it’s more separate. I’m not sure if I have the time or energy to try getting into a massive series like that right now, but I’d certainly be interested in looking at your list if you’d be willing to share. Thanks for the help!

On another note, I’m gonna have to second @kkslider5552000 on Kaguya-sama. The first half episode 3 is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen on television, I swear. I went out and bought volume 1 of the manga the very next day after I saw it.

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CanisWolfred

Heavyarms55 wrote:

Okay everyone, shut up about everything else and lets get back to being nerds! Anime: GO!

Any other Gundam fans on this site?

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Yes, huge fan of the franchise, the very reason I'm an anime fan, and the giant robot genre in general is my niche to the near exclusion of everything else. All other anime I watch is just there to hold me over until the my next mecha fix.

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RR529

I've watched a few Gundam series, and I tend to enjoy them. My favorites are probably Mobile Fighter G Gundam (which isn't at all anything like the others) &, as Heavyarms55 mentioned, 00. Also quite liked Unicorn.

My favorite giant robot/mecha series are probably Eureka Seven & Neon Genesis Evangelion, though. More recent favorites would be Knights of Sidonia & KuroMakuro, though as neither has a definitive ending, I can't put them up with the former two.

Currently watching through the Last Hope on Netflix, which is a pretty decent watch. Most of the monsters are over designed CG monstrosities, though.

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Heavyarms55

OMG Shield Hero was sooooo good this week! Slime was great as expected. Sword Art Online is kinda becoming Sword Bleach Online, Fairy Tail's final season is a roaring blast, and Magical Girl Spec Ops Asuka is proving a pleasant surprise as well! Not to mention last season's amazing Goblin Slayer! Loads of fantastic anime recently!

But the only anime recently that has massively let me down is Toaru Majutsu no Index 3/ A Certain Magical Index 3. I utterly adored the first 2 seasons when they were new, and Railgun, the sister series, proved itself almost better than the series that spawned it. So I was ecstatic when season 3 of Index was finally announced! But my lord have they blown it! Some of the absolute worst pacing I have ever seen! No character development whatsoever as a result. They've pushed to introduce dozens of new characters but left themselves no time to show us anything about who they are, where their loyalties lie or why we should care. They are slamming through one story arc after another so fast they might as well skip animating it and just give us a powerpoint show summary! It's the frame of a story that I can tell should have been so good, but they are bum rushing through it so badly and it makes me that much more upset...

But that let down is offset because That Time I was Reincarnated as a Slime and now Rise of the Shield Hero have proven themselves to be so good! Every week I am loving it! I'm also watching a few others, Girly Air Force is the anime equivalent of off-brand junk food, but a decent time waster. Quintessential Quintuplets is a quirky harem with lots of eye candy, and The Promised Neverland is proving to be a really interesting thriller.

I save all my weekly anime and then binge watch it on Crunchyroll every Sunday. Always a good time.

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Heavyarms55

@lolwutTM If you were interested in the main timelime I would suggest watching them in this order, it's not the order the series were released but the in-universe timeline:

Mobile Suit Gundam, 8th MS Team, Gundam 0083, Zeta Gundam, Gundam ZZ, Char's Counterattack, Gundam Unicorn(the OVA version is better than the TV edit) and then Gundam Narrative(Gundam NT)

Optionally between 8th MS Team and 0083 there is Gundam War in the Pocket, which I personally don't like, but is actually fairly popular. Also Gundam F91 takes place after NT but hasn't aged well and might end up getting remade. Victory Gundam takes place in the same universe, but decades and decades later and has almost no connection beyond some references and tech.

@RR529 I quite liked Knights of Sidonia, and I hope it gets another season. It might actually make me come back to Netflix if it gets another season.

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Shachiku Succubus no Hanashi Is a manga about a succubus, so one would expect it to be borderline porn. But instead it's one of the most wholesome things ever. An overworked, exhausted salaryman and an overworked exhausted succubus fall in love after doing the most PG things imaginable. It's super short - only 10 chapters to date and I read them all in like 20 minutes, but man, it's great! Look it up if you want a laugh!

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Ralizah

I'm really digging the more grounded character designs of the new Fruits Basket series.

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Heavyarms55

@Ralizah It looks decent... but good lord I hope they fire that translator for those subtitles! That was like 2008 fan-sub level bad. lol

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Ralizah

@Heavyarms55 I don't trust Funimation's translations. Their dubs can be even worse, as with the infamous case where they added a reference to Gamergate to an episode of Prison School.

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Heavyarms55

@Ralizah I understand how some companies try to do more than translate when they localize, but not only do some of their decisions come off as condescending, but for those people who actually do speak both languages watching it, laughable. But even that I can forgive to a degree. Inserting things that weren't in the source material - sickening. Personally I prefer a mostly direct translation, with liberties taken only with aspects of the Japanese that don't easily 1 to 1 translate. I know enough Japanese after living in Japan for 4 years that I can spot when they are just pulling crap out of their bums.

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Heavyarms55

With the most recent season of anime coming to a close, and several very good titles finishing or going on hiatus, I think now is a good time to talk about this. I think it deserves a separate thread from the main anime post because this is about the industry, rather than specific shows.

It feels like more than ever before anime are being made, one season covering the first portion of a story and leaving everything largely unresolved. More and more anime are just stopping, with their stories unfinished and studios waiting to see what sells DVDs or merchandise to judge, which, if any, will get another season. Other studios are seeing the unlikelihood of a second season and throwing proper pacing out the window in a mad rush to get to a certain scene or exciting story point.

Another growing problem is how painfully standardized seasons are becoming. Anime seasons are divided like real seasons, Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter season, each being 12-13 episodes/weeks. About 3 months. A "one cour" anime is one season, occasionally you get 2 cours or 2 seasons, and very rarely you get an anime that airs for a full year(4 cours/seasons). (if there has been an anime that did 3 cours nonstop, I haven't seen or heard of it). This system is warping anime because it is forcing studios to build all their shows around this, usually resulting in rushed shows crammed into a single season. Or shows that don't finish because they only get that single season. Mega-anime in the vein of Dragon Ball, Detective Conan, Naruto and Fairy Tail with hundreds of episodes are a relic of the past. Boruto and Dragon Ball Super being the most recent but both can be seen as continuations, not new series.

As a long time and very big anime fan I will be the first to admit that the anime industry can create total garbage just as notably as it can deliver epic adventures, heart breaking tragedies and wondrous sci-fi/fantasy. But the trend I am talking about is warping the industry and taking shows that should have been much better and crippling them.

While this last season had several very good shows, it also had several more that were warped in the way I describe. It feels like this trend is getting worse and worse. I've lost track of how many anime I have seen in the last 5 years that just stop or were bum rushed so they could fit into a single season...

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Link-Hero

Here’s my new list of anime shows and movies that I’ve somewhat recently watched. I loved them enough that I wanted to recommend them to everyone here. However, before you see them, I'm giving a warning that they are all more towards the adult age range. That’s especially the case for the last few. If you’re concerned of their ratings, I’ll have it below the title and order them from the most to least tame.

School-Live!:
Rating: 14+
“Four high school friends, Yuki, Yuuri, Kurumi, and Miki have organized a new club with their advisor named “School Living Club”. For there mascot, they got a cute little dog that stays with them to represent the club. Why they formed a club with a name like that? To survive their daily high school lives of course! The club is mostly used as a way to do many activities together whenever they finish their tasks. However, throughout the twelve episode run, they’re all forced to face many emotional hardships that build up over time with one of them having difficulty in getting her grip on the situations happening around her.”

This show... Just wow. I did not expect to like it as much as I did or how emotionally invested I would get into the characters. It’s especially the case with some of its twists and reveals that happen later.

If you want to easily watch the series, just go onto Crunchyroll here. Yet again, don’t read the “About the Show” description as it spoils a plot point that happens later. Why do Crunchyroll allow their staff to write in spoilers is beyond me.

Made in Abyss:
Rating: 14+
“At the top of a large mountain, there is a mysterious gaping chasm that stretches down into the depths of the earth named “the Abyss”. The hole is filled with artifacts of little-known origins or use and many otherworldly creatures not seen anywhere else on earth. No one alive has ever seen what’s on the bottom due to a phenomenon when you enter the chasm called “the Curse of the Abyss”. Nothing happens when going down, but coming back up is when you begin feeling the effects of different symptoms. The further you go, the more severe they get. When you travel 10 meters into the chasm, nausea will occur. You’ll then feel intense pain throughout the body, have a loss of senses, and eventually death.

Now, this story we’re following is about an orphaned girl named Riko. She lost her mother years ago when she descended down deep into the chasm and never returned. One day while Riko was collecting relics at the surface of the Abyss, a giant creature attacks her and starts giving chase. During the pursuit, she is rescued by a robotic boy with no name or memories previous to there encounter. The only clue she could find out about him is the place he was created from is somewhere down below. Believing that her mother is still alive, Riko uses this as a chance to find her and asks the boy to help reach to the bottom of the chasm. With the agreement, they sneak out of the village and begin climbing down deeper and deeper into the Abyss with Riko having high hopes.”

If you think that this is a show for kids solely based on the cute visuals, I just want to tell you it’s anything but that. If it needs to get bloody or brutal, it will do so without hesitation. Do not let kids see this as it’s not made for them. Also, the visuals and animation are so gorgeous that they feel very close to movie quality. They are that astounding.

If you’re interested, the only easy and legal way to watch Made in Abyss is on Amazon Prime Video. Even with an Amazon account, you need to subscribe to Prime as they have exclusive streaming rights to it. The only other way for you to see it if you purchase it on Blu-ray or DVD. If you have Prime, you can go to the link here to give it a watch.

When They Cry:
Rating: 17+
“In the summer of 1983, Keiichi has just moved to the quiet little village of Hinamizawa and quickly becomes friends with schoolmates Rena, Mion, Satoko, and Rika. However, he comes to find something dark beneath the seamlessly peaceful town and its citizens.

As the village prepares for its annual festival, Keiichi learns about the local legends surrounding it. Unexpected to him, he discovers that there have been several murders and disappearances in the village in recent years. All which begin happening after a construction worker for a local dam was found dismembered. They all seem to be connected to the festival and the village's patron god, Oyashiro. Keiichi tries to ask his new friends about these incidents, but they suspiciously stay silent about it and refuse to give him the answers he needs. As more and more bizarre events occur, he wonders just what secrets his friends are keeping from him, and if he can even trust them to begin with.”

I really did enjoy this show’s mystery aspect and characters, but oh boy does it get violent. Surprisingly violent. It was enough that some scenes actual put me in unease due too how harsh they got. While watching episode by episode, you most likely get really confused about what’s going on at first. Don’t immediately drop the show as they will give you some of your answers eventually. The visuals and animation are nothing to write home about as this was released in 2006. It was a time where studios were still figuring out how to take proper advantage of new computer technology and animation software. Even with the mediocre visuals, what saves it is the facial expressions. Those were done very well and do a good job in giving appropriate emotions for different scenes.

Do you want to watch it? Well, it annoyingly isn’t simple to do so. It’s not on that many legal streaming services as I could only find it on Hulu and Yahoo (surprised it’s on there or that they even have a streaming service). If you do watch it on one of those services, they merely have 26 episodes. Why do I mention that? Because it’s not the complete series and it actually 3 seasons and 55 episodes long. The only way to see the rest if you purchase it on Blu-ray or DVD. You can still go check it on Hulu here as a test before purchasing to see if you like it.

Perfect Blue:
Rating: Unrated (17+)

“Mimi, a mildly-popular pop star for the idol group “CHAM!”, has made the decision to presume her career as an actress. During her last performance, she makes the announcement to her fans about the leave and change in career. Many of them are left uncertain with the news, especially for one in particular. Just shortly afterward, she quickly gets a roll in a crime drama series “Double Bind” thanks to her agent and manager. However, things quickly go sour as her handlers and collaborators begin turning up murdered. With the building of stress during production and paranoia of a potential stalker from an obsessive fan, she slowly loses her perception of fiction and reality.”

This is the late Satoshi Kon‘s directorial feature debut released back in 1997. The same person who directed Millennium Actress, Tokyo Godfathers, Paranoia Agent, and Paprika. Got a chance to see it for the first time on its 20th-anniversary re-release in theaters in mid-2018. All I have to say about it is that it has become one of my favorite anime movies of all time. It’s a physiological horror, which is the best and the only good type of horror. The movie will play tricks with your head and intentionally confuse the audience to showcase Mimi’s dilapidating mind. Since the movie is from 1997, it will present technology from that time period and treat it as new and astounding like with the internet.

If you're wondering why I have this one at the bottom, its due to some of its content. Perfect Blue has scenes that can be quite disturbing to some people for different reasons. When I say disturbing, I mean it. All I can say without spoiling is that they’re related to violence and sexual themes.

The only few ways for you to watch the movie is purchasing it on Blu-ray and DVD and through streaming services like YouTube and Amazon Prime. It isn’t available on any services similar to Crunchyroll.

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CanisWolfred

@Link-Hero Perfect Blue is the least disturbing out of any of the ones you listed there, IMO.

Anyways, I've actually been watching quite a bit of anime lately, so I guess it doesn't hurt to post some thoughts:

My Hero Academia - I almost forgot to get caught up on this, but I'm glad I finally did! This show is still exhilerating to watch, and I can hardly wait to see it continue!

Seven Deadly Sins - I watched up through season 3 on Netflix (season 2 was only 4 episodes, though, and it felt like filler. I think they were just the OVAs). This show is fun, albeit flawed. I love the characters (for the most part), but its sense of escalation is all off, and combine that with how little the powers of most characters are defined and how so many seem invulnerable or invincible, and the action is about as interesting as your average Super Friends episode, despite all the top-grade animation. The season also ended a bit anti-climacticly, IMO. Hopefully season 4 will see some improvement.

Mob Psycho 100 - Finally got around to watching this, and barreled through the first season. This was actually quite heart-warming, and of course the comedy was hilarious! I can hardly wait to season season 2, but I've been watching it dubbed, and not all of the dubbed episodes are available for streaming yet, so I guess I'll be patient just to ensure I have maximum enjoyment.

Dragon Ball Super - I finally got to some new content, and God was it worth it! The pacing got better, and in general it's nice not having to constantly complain about how "the movies did this same arc better!!!1" and just enjoy watching some iconic characters do their thing. I'm finally on the Future Trunks arc, and I couldn't be more excited to dive into it!

Jojo's Bizarre Adventures - Stardust Crusaders - They FINALLY made it to Egypt! I've been trying to trudge my way through this season for 4 freakin' years, and I FiNaLlY get to see them arrive at their destination!

...now if only I could remember why they needed to get to Egypt in the first place...

(and before the Jojo fans crusify me, this season took on a "monster of the day" formula that I can't stand in any show. It's a testament to its quality that I finished any episodes at all, let alone a full season. I just can't wait for this whole road trip business to be over and we can finally have some decent pacing again)

Code Geass: Lelouch of the Re;surrection - I went to the theaters to watch this, and it was definitely worth it! It was great seeing the cast again, the plot fit the timeframe it had to work with well enough, and the action as as stellar as the franchise as always had. I did have a few quibles with the story (It's not airtight, simply put), but damn was it exhilerating to watch the whole way through!

...and now I find out that this was just phase 1 of a 10 years plan to flood the market with Code Geass related content...I'm not sure how I feel about that...

I still got one more movie to watch this week, but I guess that's enough for one post.

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