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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia I see there's a bit of miscommunication there. Probably because of your auto correct...

You were talking about Sea of Thieves? But it says "searching of thieves"....

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I'm no youtube personality, but i sometimes wonder if watching the elderly (older than 29) crowd play games would be a good sell

Just call it "Geriatric Let's Plays" and perhaps you'll even open up a whole new world of possibilities...

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NEStalgia

@Octane when does the thread get a petting mini game?

@Kimyonaakuma the problem this year was the frat house bro fest the smash guys had, and that it was always the same group playing rowdy. Some segments they conveyed information like usual but most it was like they were just playing for themselves with a forced "look hmuch fun we have with this game as a group of hip friends" the Audrey, Kendra dynamic still had them mostly conveying info. But i feel it's not there personalities but the direction.... It seems the focus was to show "people having fun in groups with Nintendo (TM) brand products" rather than sitting e3 information. Jc and demitrius aren't usually that boring.

Sam is management now so she's doing the formal Nintendo thing like bill. I get the feeling Chiko of management as well... Not sure her role but she strikes me as someone a bit more authorized in her interactions. There was the only fun one this time though. It's just awkward when they make her the English host that has to go through the translator when she's the only native Japanese speaker other than the dev on the set....

It was funny the few times she just gave up on the translation and asked setup instructions for the demo directly (insert iwata gave gesture) of the guest.

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Kimyonaakuma

@link3710 You're welcome!

@NEStalgia I skipped most of the Smash coverage and I still didn't enjoy it as much as I usually do, not that it's the most thrilling thing to watch but it has it's moments occasionally
The Smash sections (all 500 of them!) were just not interesting. I'm not a big fan of Smash but it just seemed like they had space to fill so they got some of the guys to beat eachother up while trying to showcase some new characters once in a while.
But to be honest what did they have to show to fill all of those segments? Three characters and maybe a few new stages? That isn't enough to keep people interested, even if you want to also talk about costume changes and redesigns. I get that it was their main game this E3 but they needed to show more if they wanted to livestream that much. But I think the lack of big games revealed during the Direct was the cause of the issue. If they shortened the Smash section and announced some more games we wouldn't have needed repeated sections for Smash, Mario Tennis Aces and Octo Expansion. A brief FE section could have worked too, they obviously have a translated build of the game from the trailer so why not use that?

I preferred the Audrey/Kindra/Theresa sections in previous years, even if they had to spend half an hour talking about one Rune of Breath of the Wild they still made it interesting. You would always see plenty of gameplay, have some entertaining moments and learn more about the game in general - which I'm pretty is the three reasons why they bother doing these livestreams.
This year it was just awkward and had that as you mentioned "people having fun in groups with Nintendo (TM) brand products". If the games themselves are fun you don't need to try and sell it that hard in my opinion.

I just checked and apparently she's the Assistant Manager of Product Marketing, which does explain the forced business-like behaviour, but it doesn't really match the mood that everyone else in the room has so it just makes her look out of place. She obviously takes the lead role when she's on camera but it just ruins it for me when she needs to be Player One or if she has a feature that she wants to show off but someone else is playing. She did a couple of times this year but I remember it being really annoying last year when she kept interrupting just so she could try and get whoever was playing to show off Odyssey's Co-op mode. It was just annoying, and I know it's just her job but I can't stand it It makes me want to steal her job and teach her some subtle ways to change the topic of a conversation.

I felt a little sorry for Chiko! It's a little annoying after a while when you have to wait for the translation but it must be worse if you know both languages! I was entertained when she went straight to the developers, even if she might get told off afterwards...

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@Kimyonaakuma In all fairness, a couple (of the many) Smash spots were actually interesting. I remember one where they played a long match with only new items, explaining details on them. Same with one on Assist Trophies, and one on Pokemon. Those were probably the only ones that held my interest. The rest of them though? Since they weren't allowed to show off what I assume must be such a huge portion of the game, it just got sooooo repetitive.

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NEStalgia

@Kimyonaakuma well marketing people are all devil spawn in general (sorry thanos! ) Sam is a fantastic presenter, solo, but too control freak when handling others.

As for the 500 smash events that's the odd thing. They had lots of other games to showcase in that time, but they didn't. There's always repeat segments but never like that. Then for multiplatform instead of the 5 big aa rpgs, the shooter, the souls game coming they showed overcooked twice.... And squeezed everything in the direct to get more smash. I don't think it was all smash for lack of other things to show. I think they specifically wanted it to be all smash, and i can't fathom why. Fighter z was a big deal but it was buried... Probably because it competed with smash.

I suspect Chiko won't get told off on that one. noa might be annoyed but I'm sure ncl has her back

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@NEStalgia "Marketing people are devil spawn".

Well excuuuuse me.

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@Spanjard ms had way more than shooty finally though it was biased toward it. It also had vespyria, kh3, dmc5, "samurai souls", ori.... Lots of variety.

Sony had mostly games about death plus Spidey and samurai (death).

Nintendo had smash anssomeotherstuffshownfast

Yeah, Sony's line-up was depressing in an unexpected way. Not that they were bad, but I didn't get a sense of energy the way some of the other conferences had, especially Ninty, who had the opposite problem - slow down! That looked cool, I wanna know more! No, not Smash, I wanna know about those other games! What? It's over already?!

Really, I didn't care for half the games Microsoft had shown, but at least it was varied, entertaining enough to watch, and had decent pacing. It didn't convince me to buy an Xbox One, but it did something else just as unexpected: It made me glad I watched their conference, and now I'm going to make sure I watch their showcase next year.

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Henmii

@Dogorilla,

I don't think it will happen, that would need some serious downgrading. Not to mention that the community aspect may be removed altogether for that possible Switch release.

Doom is on Switch though, and Wolfenstein 2 is coming. So its not entirely impossible, but very unlikely all the same.

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@Henmii Yep I agree, especially as it's an open world game which Doom and Wolfenstein are not. That said, Ark: Survival Evolved is coming to the Switch; I don't know much about that game or how graphically intensive it is, but it is open world. Of course we don't know how good the port will be yet, and I assume BG&E2 will be more graphically intensive, but I don't want to let go of this last sliver of hope just yet haha

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Not offended at all, since I'm not one of those "in general" people. I'm the exception...

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ThanosReXXX

NEStalgia wrote:

...at least thanos is honest about being a mad Titan

Oh, you don't even know the half of it...

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Kimyonaakuma

@NEStalgia Thanos is nothing compared to people in marketing! They are wayyy more ruthless
Sam is probably great at her job and I can feel that she's enthusiastic, but she does act like a control freak at times. I guess it's just part of the job...

They do like to have a main focus for each E3 and I guess this year was Smash. Hopefully we'll get a Direct near the end of July and we'll get a better idea of what else is coming to Switch, and maybe see more third party games get the spotlight.

I feel like Chiko has done it before, but I don't blame her it must be frustrating!

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ThanosReXXX

@Kimyonaakuma Errrm.... I actually AM a sales & marketing professional. No offense taken, though...

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Too bad I missed a good chunk of E3 this. Tbh, this was a great year overall. A lot of great games on the horizon to play.

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ThanosReXXX

@Kimyonaakuma Haha, no worries. I'm the customer-friendly kind...

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The more I think about it, the more funny it is that instead of getting the Star Fox game everyone already knew about, we got Star Fox in a game that simultaneously is closer to what people wanted, yet is also a game no one would care about if it didn't have Fox in it.

I'm reminded of when they made that weird XCom spinoff to bring the series back, and then a bit later they were like "also i guess you can have a new strategy game or whatever".

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ThanosReXXX wrote:

@Kimyonaakuma Haha, no worries. I'm the customer-friendly kind...

That's what I always say at birthdays too, to make sure I can stay

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ThanosReXXX

@kkslider5552000 I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

@toiletduck I just don't talk about it on birthdays at all: it's either too touchy a subject, or they simply don't understand what "business to business telesales" means, let alone talking about marketing campaigns...

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