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Topic: If your staff can't review a fanservice game correctly, I'll do it.

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ThanosReXXX

@HobbitGamer Well, I like to have several sources to base my opinions one, so one doesn't exclude the other, and it also wasn't really my intention to close off this thread by giving that link.

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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Dogorilla

Oh no are the gamer bros having another meltdown because someone dissed their booby simulator

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HobbitGamer

@ThanosReXXX Oh, I know you weren’t! 😁 It was for mods. With a thread topic titled like this is, it has to be left open till the goods are delivered.

@Dogorilla I find it funny that of all the article comments, there’s no one talking about how there’s no representation of single-breast folk 😂

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ThanosReXXX

@HobbitGamer Single-breast folk? Amazons?

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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scully1888

ThanosReXXX wrote:

Here you all go, an actually positive review of this game:
https://www.bonusstage.co.uk/2019/09/09/gun-gun-pixies-review/

Courtesy of @JRJalapeno, who posted this in the comments section under NLife's review.

Ah, the irony in complaining about a reviewer not doing their job properly and then linking to Bonus Stage, of all sites. Look up the story of Paul Ryan and Brash Games (which was renamed Bonus Stage after the scandal).

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tobibra

@StableInvadeel The reviewer does not have to like the game, that's ok. But a professional reviwer should be expected to not demean people who like the work they are reviweing. Why say I should be offended or emberrassed to play a game? He can say he finds the game emberrasing, but don't act like I should be ashamed of playing it. And weird how the guy who reviwed Senran Kagura reflexions felt the need to say the game pushes the boundary of tthe consoles family friendly image (or something similar" but never felt the need to bring up that point in other reviews of games with high age ratings.
Its completely unnecessary and serves little to no purpous other than attempting to belittle those who happen to like said type of games.

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ThanosReXXX

@scully1888 It wasn't me who originally posted this, I just re-posted it. And I don't really know that site, personally, but I did find the review rather thorough and elaborate, and not at all sensationalist, or massively pro-hentai or whatever kind of negative label you want to attach to it.

So, no need to ridicule any other review just because it doesn't match with the one here on NLife. Ultimately, it's just another view/opinion on things, that's all.

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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tobibra

@StableInvadeel Looks like moste of those actually were from other users in the comments and not reviewers, and I remembered wrong. I apologize for stating that.


Here is the one quote from the reviwer of the Senran Kagura game "Be that as it may, that doesn’t stop this dating sim from really pushing the envelope when it comes to content on a ‘family friendly’ console."

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NEStalgia

I'll chime in. I don't care much about the genre of game, opinions of the audience, or really much else. But I do agree that when it comes to anime or fan-service games, the critics here have a default snarky position toward them. Some games go out of their way to earn such a response. Senran Kagura almost sells itself on it's excessive cheapness of exploitation on purpose. Gal Gun where you shoot "pheromones" from a giant phallus gun at female characters.....ok, those games are so in your face, over the top, they really do deserve a snarky review, and effectively want one. The impropriety of it is the whole marketing angle.

But there's an overall bias in general in reviews, such as the, IMO, disastrous SAO review mentioned above that went on and on about mysogeny etc when that really has nothing to do with the game beyond minor use of standard anime tropes (it's not an amazing game regardless, but...). It comes across as trying to hard to appear in tune with the social outrage du jour too hard. Even if it's accurate, in some cases, it's an excessive effort to demonstrate championing a cause, and as others said, one can cynically consider that "outrage" generates web traffic.... It may be all about the Benjamins...or the Elizabeths....or whatever....

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JRJalapeno

Thanks for the heads up. I didn't know that site... Here's a few more positive reviews 🙌

https://queuetimes.com/gun-gun-pixies-nintendo-switch-review/

https://www.gamepitt.co.uk/gun-gun-pixies-nintendo-switch-rev...

https://switchingworlds.com/review-gun-gun-pixies-switch/

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ThanosReXXX wrote:

Here you all go, an actually positive review of this game:
https://www.bonusstage.co.uk/2019/09/09/gun-gun-pixies-review/

Courtesy of @JRJalapeno, who posted this in the comments section under NLife's review.

Ah, the irony in complaining about a reviewer not doing their job properly and then linking to Bonus Stage, of all sites. Look up the story of Paul Ryan and Brash Games (which was renamed Bonus Stage after the scandal).

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ThanosReXXX

@JRJalapeno You kinda messed up the quote there...

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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Dezzy

I don't really care about these kinds of games, but there's definitely a problem with mainstream reviews of this type in that I never really know if it's getting a bad score for the reasons ostensibly given, or if it's not really just a moralistic disapproval of the genre (which given the kind of social and political culture of the modern media (extremely politically correct) seems entirely plausible)

That is a problem that affects most niche genres though. There's a legitimate question as to who should actually review a niche product. Should it just be a random reviewer, or should it be someone who's already bought into the entire premise? I think you can probably argue both approaches.

As someone who has no moralistic objection to these kinds of games though, and someone who thinks political correctness is generally a negative force in the world, I do have to say that most of these types of games I've tried have been really shoddy pieces of work, so maybe the reviewer is just being fair.

NEStalgia wrote:

Gal Gun where you shoot "pheromones" from a giant phallus gun at female characters.....ok, those games are so in your face, over the top, they really do deserve a snarky review, and effectively want one. The impropriety of it is the whole marketing angle.

You could take that point and argue in the exact opposite direction too. You could say that games that are really in-your-face about the titilation, have made the appropriate effort to limit their potential audience, and that therefore the only people who should review it are those who've already bought into that premise. Because everyone else has already decided they're not interested, and therefore don't care what the review says either way.
That's presuming that the point of a review is to inform people who might buy the game.

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Joeynator3000

I don't care for this game, but it is annoying. Especially when a Senran Kagura game shows up, I've only played Burst (really wishing another big game would show up on Switch instead of these spinoffs) but still...the pinball review was just...ugh.

That game wasn't supposed to be taken seriously like the reviewer did, did they really expect a Zen Studios level of a pinball game here?

I would go for Peach Ball, but the only ACTUAL problem the game has is a lack of content. But no, game gets a bad score because jiggling boobs and female clothes being torn off.

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the_shpydar

Look people, it's not that hard to know what happened here. There's literally dozens upon dozens of games releasing every week. Obviously NL can't review them all (unless they wanted to hire a score of new reviewers, which just isn't feasible), so they have to pick and choose what games to review.

So obviously, when making those choices, the decision was made to have a review done of this game knowing that — regardless of the substance of the review (which, for the record, i found entertaining and made me laugh, even if it was dismissive and lacking) — it would get clicks since it's the type of game that inherently causes debate (the harmless fan-service camp vs. the cringy and pathetic camp).

Basically, the editorial decision to review this game, as opposed to choosing a different game to review and ignoring it completely (and there are plenty of Switch games that go unreviewed on NL — again, not a criticism, it's just a matter of sheer numbers of games vs number of reviewers vs limited hours in the day) was made because it makes smart business sense to drive traffic, and it was a successful decision. Even the fact that this thread exists just further proves the point that it was smart business-wise to review the game.

Or, to put it more succinctly — clickbait. Shocker!

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Dogorilla

@ThanosReXXX He's not criticising the site because he disagrees with the review, it's because Bonus Stage founder Paul Ryan is infamous for disrespecting and not paying the writers for his site. I don't think scully was expecting you to know that, it's just that that site doesn't exactly have a lot of integrity.

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Sabroni

IMO it's a valid criticism but I completely understand the reviewers point of view. I think the suggestion above was probably the most valid, do a mini review of the game and do an article examining how fan service represents women and men and how unbalanced it is.
Despite Anti-matter's claims that six pack fan service games are around I'm not aware of any that allow you to adjust the size of a man's chest. And I can imagine the outrage at a slider to make the models penis broader or longer, (though obviously we'd only ever render bits of it, sneakily glimpsed through an open fly...).
The fact is that in the west we don't have access to fan service games that objectify the male body in the same way as women's bodies are in games like DOAX and Senran Kagura. I can completely sympathise with the unease the reviewers feel towards these games.
To discuss all this from a male perspective, without even reference to the impact these games have on females, is nonsense. If you're a male saying there's no problem with this game you're like a white man in the UK saying racism isn't a problem, your perspective isn't relevant.

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Galenmereth

@Sabroni Conan Exiles has a slider for dong size and floppiness. Let me tell you, when a half naked barbarian runs at you swinging an axe with his pride flopping about wildly, your brain stem reacts in a primal, instinctive manner. It's the scariest pvp encounters I've ever experienced.

Nobody outraged about that.

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Dogorilla

@Sabroni Agreed. I think it's okay for people to like this kind of game as long as they're aware of how sexist it is and would never objectify real-world women like in these games. (I mean, obviously they're not gonna start shooting magic breast-enlarging hormones at real women or whatever the hell happens in these games, but you get my point.) The thing is, the way fans of these games immediately lose their minds if anyone dares to suggest that maybe there's a problem with this level of objectification of women, even in fiction, makes me think that said fans are totally oblivious to the sexist ideals that these games encourage.

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Galenmereth

@Dogorilla Does GTA encourage teens to become mass-murderers? Does Call of Duty encourage people to go to war?

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