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SamuraiShyGuy

41. Posted:

Yeah, angle 5 is good. I really like this game. Excalibur is my favorite table. I find the Shaman table to be really cheap. I can't get a high score on that table because the ball always manages to go down the outlane. The tables all have so much going on that it is difficult to understand what you are supposed to do. I'm starting to get an idea on the Excalibur stage but it takes a while. Even reading the explanations isn't much help at first. All the sudden I got on a pinball kick and I bought this game and ordered Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Edition online. I can't wait to compare the real pinball tables in that game to the fictional tables in Zen Pinball.

But you know what pinball game really rocks? Pinball on the NES. I could play that game for hours. I like old school video game pinball that isn't trying to be like a real pinball table. Now I want to track down a copy of Metroid Prime Pinball. I should have got that when it came out.

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I still like angle 6 over 5 slightly. As for shaman it is really hard to score on the board that much ill agree. My top is around 13 million. Excalibur is also my favorite but the board I think you can score the most on is the space one. Not sure what that's called atm.

Talking about other pinball games. Who here remembers revenge of the gator. I seen it in the Nintendo power classic section and it brought back good memories!

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I'm finding this game way too distracting. I would much rather be playing it right now rather than working!
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Donjwolf

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Oh man I thought I was the only one who knows of Revenge of the Gator. Pinball with gators. What's not to like? I thought it was a neat touch to have a gator eat your ball when it drains. I would love to see it on the Eshop since it was made by Hal but I doubt that will ever happen. Hal seems to have forgotten about it and they already made Kirby's Pinball which came out later and had a layout that was quite similar to Revenge of the Gator. If they ever release a pin on Eshop, it'd probably be that :(

@SamuraiShyGuy, I have good news and bad news for you. Good news is I am happy you're willing to give Williams Collection a go since not many people even want to play that game (it's always Zen with them). I prefer real pinball tables to 'video-gamey' pins like Zen (although it doesn't mean I hate them). By video-gamey, I mean games in which the developers add stuff to the pinball tables that can never happen in a real pinball table (ie Metroid Pinball where animated Metroids appear on the field and you have to hit them with your ball). Ergo, games like Zen and Metroid Pinball are more 'arcadey' then actual authentic pinball tables such as Williams Collection and the Pro Pinball series so if you want something fast, then you'll probably like the arcadey pins more. If you prefer tables with more skill involved, then you'll like authentic tables more.

The bad news is, there really isn't any reason to actually get Williams Collection now since in March (or so) Farsight (the devs) are bringing out Pinball Arcade on various platforms (including Eshop) which looks to be the most comprehensive Pinball game yet and they estimate at least 50 tables (with DLC) which are reproductions of real life tables from Williams, Bally, Gottlieb and Stern. The tables from their Williams and Gottlieb collection games will eventually make their way to Pinball Arcade with improved physics, graphics and other stuff. If you're a pinball nut, that's something to watch out for. I can't wait for it.

Excalibur and Earth Defense are my favourite tables. Ironically, they're also the two tables that have the most noticeable 3D effect (my opinion of course). Doesn't anyone else find that the rulesets for Zen's tables are really confusing? I don't understand what I'm doing most of the time and even reading the table guide is confusing. I think rulesets for actual pinball tables are much easier to understand and play.

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SamuraiShyGuy

44. Posted:

Hmmm. I'm surprised I haven't heard about that, but sure enough, you're right. Thanks for informing me. As far as I can tell from my admittedly tiny amount of research, the Pinball Arcade that you mentioned is not coming to Wii. Maybe it will come to the Wii U. It is coming to 3DS, but I'm not sure I need that much portable pinball. And I agree, the Zen Pinball tables are very confusing. When it comes to pinball, I actually prefer simpler tables. I guess that's why I enjoy old school pinball from the 8 and 16 bit days.

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Spoony_Tech

45. Posted:

Anyone try playing this game in 2d? I find this is the first game on the 3ds that actually looks better in 3d then 2d. Its almost unplayable in 2d for me. Maybe I just play to much LOL!

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I'm finding this game way too distracting. I would much rather be playing it right now rather than working!
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Donjwolf

46. Posted:

Sadly, you are right. It is not coming to Wii but there is hope for Wii U even though that's not mentioned on the official website ether. Someone said he wished all the Williams and Gottlieb versions to be in one game and they responded with, 'We've got good news for you! Well, assuming you'll settle for a Wii-U version.'

As for your other comment, WTF!!! You can NEVER have too much pinball!! I'm definitely getting Pinball Arcade for PC as my main platform (will most likely get most of the DLC here) but I may also get it on 3DS as well and only get the DLC tables I really like on it so I don't (hopefully) spend too much.

You might want to check out their Facebook page (the only reason I tolerate FB). They post new info there all the time. http://www.facebook.com/pinballarcade

P.S. No reason to play in 2D unless you have vision problems and cannot see the 3D.

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SamuraiShyGuy

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Thanks man, I appreciate the info. It'll definitely be on my radar when it comes out. I really like that you can DL the specific tables that you want. Hopefully the price will be right. And if a collection comes to Wii U, I'll probably get that too. And the only reason I said I didn't need too much pinball was because I feel that if I get too many tables to play on I won't spend enough time on each to get really good at them. I'm already having a hard time getting a grip on Zen Pinball and that's just four tables.

Yeah, when you play this game in 3D and then switch back to 2D it's like everything blends together making it very difficult to play. I've had the same thing happen in MK7. I played in 3D for a long time and then turned the 3D off and my eyes just couldn't adjust. It was weird. As far as I'm concerned, 3D makes every game look miles better.

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48. Posted:

I agree with you guys: I've been playing a ton of my games in 3D, and dropping in to 2D makes the games a pain to play. 3D has spoiled me!

I looove this game, and can't wait for some DLC tables!

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Donjwolf

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SamuraiShyGuy wrote:

And the only reason I said I didn't need too much pinball was because I feel that if I get too many tables to play on I won't spend enough time on each to get really good at them. I'm already having a hard time getting a grip on Zen Pinball and that's just four tables.

Okay I understand that part, but see, Zen won't get any DLC until 2-3 months later and Pinball Arcade is coming in March so you're basically looking at the same timeframe for both. You should have plenty of time to understand Zen's tables before PA comes out, and then just get DLC for both games (when they appear of course) as you see fit.

See? It's a win-win situation! Besides, as I mentioned before Zen is 'arcadey' pin and PA will be 'authentic' pin and both play very differently from each other so it's not like getting one will stop you from playing the other since they take pinball to different levels.

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Spoony_Tech

50. Posted:

Normally I would never play in 2d but when my 4 year old comes around to see what I'm doing I turn it off so he can see. Not because I believe it would hurt his eyes but its super blurry from angles and that probably would hurt his eyes.

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I'm finding this game way too distracting. I would much rather be playing it right now rather than working!
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bboy2970

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@donjwolf: This is the first I'm hearing of this intriguing Pinball game. Tell me, is it a physical release or a download?

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Aqueous

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@bboy2970 - download for $6.99 on the eshop but I myself have not got it yet

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Donjwolf

53. Posted:

Aqueous wrote:

@bboy2970 - download for $6.99 on the eshop but I myself have not got it yet

He's talking about Pinball Arcade, not Zen Pinball 3D. Anyway it's going to be on the Eshop so yes, it will be a digital download. They have no plans to release it in retail stores at the moment.

Here's a trailer for the game. obviously not running on the 3DS but it will give you a glimpse of the 4 starting tables
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtQa-ONdz9I
2 of them were previously on the Williams and Gottlieb collections but the other 2 are brand new: Theatre of Magic and Ripley's Believe It or Not.

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LucinaSmash

54. Posted:

confirm that DLC is coming: http://forum.zenstudios.com/showpost.php?p=20299&post...

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Donjwolf

55. Posted:

I mentioned that already but it's nice to have a confirmed link in case nobody believes me.

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SamuraiShyGuy

56. Posted:

I want the Marvel stages, but I'm not sure they would release them because isn't Marvel Pinball separate from Zen Pinball? What I'd really want is a Nintendo themed table, or tables that feature a specific franchise for each, such as a Zelda table, Star Fox table, etc.

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SamuraiShyGuy wrote:

I want the Marvel stages, but I'm not sure they would release them because isn't Marvel Pinball separate from Zen Pinball? What I'd really want is a Nintendo themed table, or tables that feature a specific franchise for each, such as a Zelda table, Star Fox table, etc.

that would b an amazing exclusive to the 3DS version!

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Donjwolf

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SamuraiShyGuy wrote:

I want the Marvel stages, but I'm not sure they would release them because isn't Marvel Pinball separate from Zen Pinball? What I'd really want is a Nintendo themed table, or tables that feature a specific franchise for each, such as a Zelda table, Star Fox table, etc.

Well it's your lucky day again! They've already confirmed Marvel tables will appear as DLC in the future.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=168873#p547642
if you don't believe me!

I doubt we'd see any exclusive tables though.

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Dak_n_Jaxter

59. Posted:

I bought this last night. I like pinball, but i'm no enthusiast. I just heard how great the visuals and gameplay was, so i caved and got it. Only played for about twenty minutes. Mainly Excalibur....pretty fun. Not sure what the goal is(beside keep it out of the hole). I mean with bonuses etc. It'll get better as i get more familiar with it.

If you want to know a fantastic pinball game.....Pokemon Pinball for the Gameboy Color. Awesome game. Came with a rumbler built into the cart. And it integrated Pokemon with the pinball. Really addictive and a lot of fun.....

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Spoony_Tech

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A couple of other points of interest. I don't like where the tilt is. It does me no good. I would rather have a button press for both sides or something. The visuals are really good and detailed. The last thing is the music is top notch along with the voices and sound effects however after listening to shaman for about 2 hours last night I'm about ready to cut off my ears (or just turn the sound down LOL).

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MERG said:

I'm finding this game way too distracting. I would much rather be playing it right now rather than working!
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