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Topic: Do DSiWare games look as pixelated as DS Cartridge games on the 3DS?

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Azikira

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I've been looking around, and it doesn't seem to have come up anywhere. I would figure it does but I don't know.
(And if it did pop up somewhere, I am blind and I appologise in advance, Black Dragon) XD

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sillygostly

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Seeing as they're the same resolution, yes. But since the most recent firmware update(s), the pixelation is less obvious. My most recent DSiWare purchases such as Oscar in Movieland, Surviving High School and Valet Parking 1989 look great whereas games that are pixelated even at their native resolution (such as Pokemon Black/White) look significantly worse when upscaled.

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Pokemon Black looks just fine.

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Birdman

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With the same resolution as regular DS games, DSiWare games would look as terrible as regular DS games. Honestly, I could probably only tell the difference between DS game graphics on a DS(i) and on a 3DS is if I had the two side by side.

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Azikira

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[quote=24972]Pokemon Black looks just fine.[/quote

I can't agree. I always end up playing it on the DSi because the blurriness bugs me.

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Azikira

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sillygostly wrote:

Seeing as they're the same resolution, yes. But since the most recent firmware update(s), the pixelation is less obvious. My most recent DSiWare purchases such as Oscar in Movieland, Surviving High School and Valet Parking 1989 look great whereas games that are pixelated even at their native resolution (such as Pokemon Black/White) look significantly worse when upscaled.

So yes then? Alright, keepin' the DSi then. XD

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Kagamine

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none of my dsiware looks pixelated, maybe its just my games though

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Cengoku

8. Posted:

they look blurrier on 3DS.

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ImDiggerDan

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Hold down either start or select whilst loading the game (DS card or DSiWare) and it runs in the original resolution with borders. Looks a lot better in my opinion.

Edit: This is the same for the GameBoy / GB Colour VC games, too.

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Hardy83

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DSiWare are games made for DSi and DSiXL so it'll be the resolution of those systems, which is lower then the 3DS I believe, so it'll always look not as crisp as good 3DS games.

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LordTendoboy

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Any DS game will look somewhat blurry on a 3DS. I have a few DS games and they look fine, the blurriness helps smooth out the jaggies and textures. DSiWare, however, looks worse for some reason. I have Tetris Party Live and it looks like a blurry mess.

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tendoboy1984 wrote:

Any DS game will look somewhat blurry on a 3DS. I have a few DS games and they look fine, the blurriness helps smooth out the jaggies and textures. DSiWare, however, looks worse for some reason. I have Tetris Party Live and it looks like a blurry mess.

Most likely due to the size restrictions on DSiware (around 16mb) There isn't much room for devs to make sure the graphics look nice.

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Schprocket

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thelastlemming wrote:

Pokemon Black looks just fine.

Ditto.

The screen resolution seems to be kept the same by keeping the aspect ratio the same - more of a 4:3 than the near 16:9 (by adding black bars either side like watching a 4:3 TV show on a wide-screen TV)... and I've clocked-up around 150 hours or so with Black on the 3DS with little effect on my aging eyes.
I should try out a few of my other DS carts but I think the Pokemon Black cartridge has 'assimilated' itself with my 3DS :)

It's also the only real way to appreciate the coolness factor of the trailers for 3DS titles, but I digress....

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TKOWL

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I love playing Pokemon White on my 3DS. The game already had a level of blurriness on the regular DS, but playing it with the smaller screen ratio by holding Start makes my eyes hurt.

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Aqueous

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dsiware looks the same as on an xl, so they are fine

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It was horrible before the firmware update. I remember when I put in my Clubhouse Games cart and fired it up and thought I would be sick. It made me happy that I kept my DSi. It will never be perfect, but now it is playable. I have noticed that some older DS games don't look as well as some newer ones, but that may also be because I have been used to playing on DSi instead of the 3DS. Games that I never played on the DSi and only on the 3DS don't look bad to me at all.

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Motorbass

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Oh boy, there is so much misconception in here...
Yes, DS-Games as well as DSi-Ware games look blurry on the 3DS and there is a reason. It is not different from game to game. And there is no way to fix it. It is because the 3DS-Screen has a higher resolution (400 x 240 pixel on the top screen (without 3D); 320 x 240 on the touchscreen) than the DS,DS lite, DSi, DSi XL-Screen all of which had a 256 x 192 pixel resolution. The DSi XL has the same resolution as the older DSs, the pixels are just physically bigger so there is no smoothing.

This is how Shantae looks like in the native DSi-resolution with 1:1 pixels:
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On the 3DS, the pixels are stretched to fit the screen, so it looks like this (also black borders):
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The image has to be blurred; the only other option is to draw some rows and columns of pixels 2 times in a row, which would look like this:
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I think that looks uglier than a little blur and isn't an option on the 3DS.

You can actually disable the stretching of DS-Games and DSi-Ware-Games on the 3DS by holding down "Select" when starting the game. But the game will display smaller.

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Hardy83 wrote:

tendoboy1984 wrote:

Any DS game will look somewhat blurry on a 3DS. I have a few DS games and they look fine, the blurriness helps smooth out the jaggies and textures. DSiWare, however, looks worse for some reason. I have Tetris Party Live and it looks like a blurry mess.

Most likely due to the size restrictions on DSiware (around 16mb) There isn't much room for devs to make sure the graphics look nice.

Actually I think it has more to do with the fact that these games are designed for the DSi rather than the 3DS

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Hokori

19. Posted:

none of them look "blurry"

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Motorbass

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SuperOtaku wrote:

none of them look "blurry"

Yes they do. :] It is technically impossible to not have them blurry if you want to use the full screen. Read my last post and ask if you don't understand something. Also, just compare the games on a DS and a 3DS. If you don't see the difference, I think you might need glasses ;]

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