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Ricardo91

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Underappreciated? The game that practically every gamer on the planet heralds as one of the greatest RPGs of all time? Hardly...

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unfortunately, i traded that in for FFCC: Echoes of Time, which is WAY better in my opinion

... i'm guessing you're meaning gameplay-wise, because story-wise, FFIV is great game.

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theblackdragon wrote:

irken004 wrote:

unfortunately, i traded that in for FFCC: Echoes of Time, which is WAY better in my opinion

... i'm guessing you're meaning gameplay-wise, because story-wise, FFIV is great game.

that's true, Echoes of Time has a good story too though

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but people what about the uk we dint get the snes realease ever only the ds realease

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Stuffgamer1

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Underrated? When were you born? If anything it's overrated IMO. Definitely not the best RPG ever made. That award goes to FFVII.

I call BS. Everybody knows FFVII sucks. Runs for dear life
Seriously, though, I don't like FFVII very much, but I'm a HUGE Chrono Trigger fan, one of the few who actually had the good sense to buy it on DS even though I still have it on SNES and PS1. How do we ever expect Squenix to give the series another shot if we don't give them sales? Besides which, the DS version is the best version, hands-down.

Either way, it's obvious that Chrono Trigger isn't underrated, but rather ignored by young "eew...2D!" morons and old "I don't want to buy this again even though it's improved" morons alike. For shame!

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Rensch

26. Posted:

Crono Trigger underappreciated? It's one of those games that pop up on best-of lists all the time.

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theblackdragon

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Stuffgamer1 wrote:

"I don't want to buy this again even though it's improved" morons alike. For shame!

a moron would be someone who didn't buy it just because they thought it looked dumb, not someone who bought and enjoyed it very much and did not feel the need to buy it again for a new system just for a few extras added in. there is no shame in being satisfied with what you've already got.

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AlexSays

28. Posted:

Under appreciated? Yeah that's a joke.

If anything it's overrated.

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Stuffgamer1

29. Posted:

@theblackdragon: There is when it gives Squenix low enough sales to decide to give up on the series again. :(

The new translation alone is worth the money, imo. The new dungeons and interface (stats on bottom screen action on top is nice and uncluttered) are just gravy. :)

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It is one of the best RPGs ever made. It my personal favorite RPG except for the Kingdom Hearts series. In fact,I think Chrono Trigger is better then the Final Fantasy series.
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31. Posted:

Stuffgamer1 wrote:

@theblackdragon: There is when it gives Squenix low enough sales to decide to give up on the series again. :(

but how is that the consumers' fault? if they were giving us a completely new chapter in the series, that would be one thing, but CTDS is still a re-release. the market is pretty saturated where Chrono Trigger is concerned. they can't base interest in the series on sales of its latest re-release alone; that would be moronic.

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Digiki

32. Posted:

Ocarina seems underappreciated, quick someone make a topic...

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33. Posted:

What's wrong with turn-based RPGs? They are pretty fun.

Anyhow, the SNES version wasn't under-appreciated and it was said to have been one fo the greatest RPGs ever. However, new generation gamers look down on 2D and traditional RPGs. I guess they kinda have more casual tastes than we did.

The DS version however, I can understand why it didn't sell well. It's not even a good remake. It's the same game with added gimmicks. Those who have an SNES version have absolutely no interests in buying it. There's very little that is new AND worthwhile.

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@theblackdragon: Remember what company we're talking about. Squenix works in mysterious, and frequently moronic, ways. It was my understanding (forget how I came to this belief, but it MAY have actually involved an interview with somebody from Squenix) that the continuation of the series would, moronic or not, depend upon the sales of Chrono Trigger DS.

Actually, though, Squenix isn't the only company that does this. It's quite common to view plausibility for sequels in reference to the sales of the most recent release, regardless of all other circumstances (like when a game gets a huge fanbase post-release, like Earthbound and Beyond Good & Evil, investors have a problem with noticing that as they stare at the pathetic sales charts).

On another point, I wouldn't call the Chrono Trigger market "saturated." The SNES version still commands some fairly high prices for copies in good condition, and the PS1 port is marred by horrible loading problems. Not to mention that Squenix sees no money from those versions now and therefore has no reason (from a greedy business perspective) to pay any attention to them. But the DS version has everything added to the PS1 port (except the loading times) plus even MORE new content, including the underconsidered new translation and two new dungeons, all without messing up the game's awesome graphics and music.

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@Stuffgamer1: why does everyone have problems with FFChronicles' load times? i played the hell out of CT in that release. it was the first time i'd ever played CT, and I loved every minute of every single ending I busted my hump to get. I really think people are exaggerating, especially considering that many PSX games had to wait for loading.

that aside, I'd certainly call it 'saturated', especially in light of all the good games out there that have never seen a re-release at all. Squenix may be 'morons' for not continuing the series, but that does not make consumers 'morons' for not re-buying what they've already got or for not re-buying what they may not even have the right system to play. I don't buy games to support multimillion dollar game companies that dangle continuation of a series over my head (and considering that I really did not enjoy Chrono Cross, there's no telling whether or not I'd even like whatever new sequel they came up with) or to court potential investors for said multimillion dollar game companies. I buy games because they're good and because I want to play them. If someone who thinks along the same lines as me doesn't want to re-buy Chrono Trigger for the DS because they already have the original cartridge or the PSX version, it doesn't make them a moron.

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@theblackdragon: So you've never played a non-PS1 version of Chrono Trigger? Then you have no point of comparison. On the PS1, it takes loading time EVERY TIME you start or finish a battle, or open/close your menus. Maybe you have exceptional patience for this, but it's FREAKING ANNOYING, at least to those of us who've played the game without that problem. Spoilers, kinda maybe: Even worse is what happens to the flashing backgrounds when you kill Lavos. The effect is just totally ruined.

I won't argue your other points, because I must admit they're somewhat valid.

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@Stuffgamer1: i don't think killing Lavos is any more a spoiler than defeating Smithy in SMRPG or Sephiroth in FFVII at this point, lol. ;) you're right, i probably don't have any point of reference, but where the PSX is concerned, loading time kinda came with the CD-based territory back then, y'know? you kids nowadays and your instant gratification and lack of patience in general... why, back in my day, we had to wait a whole five minutes for each new map to load in our games, and we liked it! it gave us time to go put the dog out or grab a drink from the kitchen! **shakes a gnarled, withered fist and continues yelling about young people on her lawn** :P

also, thanks. :)

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AlexSays

38. Posted:

Yeahhh

I haven't beat Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VII, or Super Mario RPG. lol

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Stuffgamer1

39. Posted:

@theblackdragon: Gnarled at 26? You might wanna get that looked at. ;)

You can't be too careful with spoiler alerts nowadays. Who knows? MAYBE Lavos wins in the end? Well, in one of the endings, he DOES, so...yeah... :P

Thing is, the ORIGINAL version of Chrono Trigger didn't have the loading issue the PS1 port does. If the PS1 version WAS the original, I would be less annoyed with the loading than I am. :P

@AlexSays: :D Come to think of it, I haven't beaten FFVII, and I wasn't 100% sure Sephy dies in the end. Thanks a lot, theblackdragon! j/k...mostly. ;)

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40. Posted:

theblackdragon sounds like cranky kong :D

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