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Metafish

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I've tried a few of Bethesda's RPG's, (Oblivion and Fallout 3) but none of 'em catched me.. Do you think this one will? I really like the Pokemon RPGs and Mario & Luigi RPGs if that will be any help

Also, this and Bethesda's RPGs are totally different from what I can see...

This just looks so awesome, I love the artstyle... Manga ftw

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I actually thought this was a joke thread at first.

There is absolutely no question. Get Chrono Trigger.

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:P

Yearh, I have yet to see just ONE guy thinking this game sucks.. Only heard positive feedback

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Not suprising. It really does deserve all the praise it gets; it really is that good. I overhyped myself on this game for several years, and when I got it on DS, it actually exceeded even my wildest, overhyped dreams.

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Are you crazy!!!??? YES YES YES GET CHRONO TRIGGER!!! Its a fantastic game that I would completly recommend. If you dont like it, I will personally refund you the £30. But as everyone who's played the game knows, that aint gonna happen :)

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No. It's nothing like Pokemon, or Mario. It's nothing like Blethesda's games, but that doesn't mean it's any better. The Manga aspect is purely aesthetic. Unless you can give me more specifics as to why you didn't like Bethesda's games, and why you like the other said games, I highly doubt it'll appeal to you. It didn't appeal to me, and I was in the same boat as you.

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Well, I just thought that Bethesdas games are very slow, and much walking and talking.. I mean, you have to read everything in order to get a proper chance of answering "correct" to questions.. In general, I just didn't have the motivation to travel a loooong way to get something.. That just doesn't interest me.. I think the problems with Oblivion and Fallout for me lays in two words: SAND BOX. (actually it's just one word, bit what the heck)

And yes, Pokemon are sandbox too, but not in the same way. In Mario & Luigi there is a story laid for you to follow.. That's what I want :D

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@Will
Thin we got a sweet deal there :P

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If you like 2D RPG's, Chrono Trigger is almost at the top of the hill in its genre, so you can't go wrong with playing it! :o

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@Mickeymac
Well, I just thought that Bethesdas games are very slow, and much walking and talking.. I mean, you have to read everything in order to get a proper chance of answering "correct" to questions.. In general, I just didn't have the motivation to travel a loooong way to get something.. That just doesn't interest me.. I think the problems with Oblivion and Fallout for me lays in two words: SAND BOX. (actually it's just one word, bit what the heck)

And yes, Pokemon are sandbox too, but not in the same way. In Mario & Luigi there is a story laid for you to follow.. That's what I want :D

Then perhaps you will like Chrono Trigger. My problem with it was that the whole story was laid out to me, with no leeway at all to make the adventure my own. I personally found that incredibly patronizing, since I was forced to be the director, instead of the writer - making my own story, with my own characters, whose actions and motivations are what I choose it to be. This also effected the gameplay, since your skills and your party are also at the mercy of your developers - you don't know when you'll be separated by your best party members, and there's no way to make your other members make up for their absence(teaching them the important skills the missing one had). However, since you don't seem to mind this, I suppose you'll be alright.

And just to note, there isn't a "right" answer to the questions in Bethesda's games, the answer is what you want it to be, more or less. That's why it's called a Sandbox game.

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Metafish wrote:

@Mickeymac
Well, I just thought that Bethesdas games are very slow, and much walking and talking.. I mean, you have to read everything in order to get a proper chance of answering "correct" to questions.. In general, I just didn't have the motivation to travel a loooong way to get something.. That just doesn't interest me.. I think the problems with Oblivion and Fallout for me lays in two words: SAND BOX. (actually it's just one word, bit what the heck)

And yes, Pokemon are sandbox too, but not in the same way. In Mario & Luigi there is a story laid for you to follow.. That's what I want :D

And just to note, there isn't a "right" answer to the questions in Bethesda's games, the answer is what you want it to be, more or less. That's why it's called a Sandbox game.

Yearh, thats also why I wrote "correct" answers with two "s. :)

Sounds like it's a RPG I will enjoy, Fallout and the other Bethesda games just seemed too overwhelming to me, and as I said, the motivation for me to travel around was minimal... Thanks for the replies!

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Metafish wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

Metafish wrote:

@Mickeymac
Well, I just thought that Bethesdas games are very slow, and much walking and talking.. I mean, you have to read everything in order to get a proper chance of answering "correct" to questions.. In general, I just didn't have the motivation to travel a loooong way to get something.. That just doesn't interest me.. I think the problems with Oblivion and Fallout for me lays in two words: SAND BOX. (actually it's just one word, bit what the heck)

And yes, Pokemon are sandbox too, but not in the same way. In Mario & Luigi there is a story laid for you to follow.. That's what I want :D

And just to note, there isn't a "right" answer to the questions in Bethesda's games, the answer is what you want it to be, more or less. That's why it's called a Sandbox game.

Yearh, thats also why I wrote "correct" answers with two "s. :)

Sounds like it's a RPG I will enjoy, Fallout and the other Bethesda games just seemed too overwhelming to me, and as I said, the motivation for me to travel around was minimal... Thanks for the replies!

Yer welcome. Too bad I didn't make that money-back deal with Will like you did. Now I wasted $40.:p

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I'd say yes, yes, especially if you didn't play it. It's a classic, and if you're a completionist, there's lots of endings to get.

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Yes. Get it.

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The Manga aspect is purely aesthetic.

Of course its aesthetic, what else could it be? Manga is just a term that refers to Japanese comics (sometimes print cartoons or "komikku"). Characters and storylines could be referred to as "manga" if you want to stretch it (but you really shouldn't), but really, its the artstyle that we're talking about with this term.

It's like saying Madworld has a distinct comic book sense to the design. Well, yes, that much is obvious and that design is purely aesthetic as well. All design and game art is aesthetic.

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@Mickeymac
My problem with it was that the whole story was laid out to me, with no leeway at all to make the adventure my own. I personally found that incredibly patronizing, since I was forced to be the director, instead of the writer - making my own story, with my own characters, whose actions and motivations are what I choose it to be. This also effected the gameplay, since your skills and your party are also at the mercy of your developers - you don't know when you'll be separated by your best party members, and there's no way to make your other members make up for their absence(teaching them the important skills the missing one had).

I think this is the difference between writing your own material, and playing a video game. If you want to write your own stuff and avoid reading someone else's tales, fiction or characterizations, then you're free to do so when you sit down at your Word Processor and type away. To some extent, developers have created these Sandbox games that allow you more creative freedom, but they are still limited to the extent that the developers can't include every single combination/possibility you can think of. This is why when we're talking true creativity, you essentially need to sit down and write/draw your own stuff.

JRPG's like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI are great because you get to experiences someone elses creative genius, and then are allowed a degree of freedom within that framework. You wrote previously that you didn't like this limtiation but I personally find it merges the best of two worlds- you get to enjoy someone else's creativity/art (like a good novel) and within that story you get to choose how you level up, which weapons you'll use, what you will buy, (sometimes) what to name your characters, when you want to grind for more levels, (and especially in Chrono Trigger) which areas you want to visit and when.

It's like taking your favourite book or movie and then allowing you some customization and liberty within that piece of fiction. It doesn't bastardize the original vision, and it doesn't restrict you to simply watching cut scenes (see modern FF games).

It's a shame to hear you don't like this style, but, then again, I can't stand the sandboxing. I find if I want "ultimate freedom" that a video game prepared by someone else is just not the right venue for me to truely express myself.

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If you've never played it: GET IT. absolutely.

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Maniac wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

The Manga aspect is purely aesthetic.

Of course its aesthetic, what else could it be? Manga is just a term that refers to Japanese comics (sometimes print cartoons or "komikku"). Characters and storylines could be referred to as "manga" if you want to stretch it (but you really shouldn't), but really, its the artstyle that we're talking about with this term.

It's like saying Madworld has a distinct comic book sense to the design. Well, yes, that much is obvious and that design is purely aesthetic as well. All design and game art is aesthetic.

I'm just saying that the story doesn't in anyways resemble an anime/manga. It's not like FF7, where it has a very anime-ish story AND aesthetic.

As for that other stuff: I'm not asking for much honestly. I can use my imagination to fill in the blanks, but I do require the basics - choosing my party or at least the skillset of the Main dude, Naming Party, having at least some actual input/choices in the game, and really just having something to do outside the main plot so I can dick around. That's it, it's not that hard, and a lot of other RPGs manage to meet those requirements. Unfortunately, Chrono Trigger does not(asside from the naming, but that got old very quickly).

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this for some ,is critcle acliamied the best rpg ever respond to us when youv made your mind up

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