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1,041. Posted:

Only if you didn't save.

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1,042. Posted:

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I'd have to give the game an 7.5/10 upon completing it. I don't know, it's certainly a huge leap in the right direction and a generally fantastic game but... it feels like a ton of stuff has been left out simply for Pokémon Inevitable Gray Version. And Unova felt like one hell of a small and uninteresting region. Possibly partly because of the shadow of HGSS looming over it, but I think the main culprit is the five enormous but largely trainer-less bridges. Skyarrow bridge was fun, but the rest were... a bit pointless. I'd rather have had some real routes. There wasn't much in the way of attractions, either. No Game Corner, no Safari Zone, nothing to replace either. Team Plasma didn't exactly get much screentime, that scene in the black building in Castelia City smelled strongly of "OOPS THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE EVIL BASE PART BUT WE RAN OUT OF TIME." And N's Castle doesn't count, since there was only two battles in it, and lots and lots of walking.

Also, the gap between the Elite 4 and the next batch of trainers you get to fight is enormous. Elite 4's at Lv45ish, but then you hit the new routes and people immediately start attacking you with Lv60 Gliscors. And there's barely anyone to rebattle. No Vs Seeker, no phone, no level-upped gym leaders. Between Lv50 and 65, your money suddenly feels like a very finite and precious resource, especially with the way you'll be steaming through Hyper Potions. OK, sure, you could just go grind against wild Lv50 Audino for a while. But that's incredibly boring after not very long, and you don't get any cash out of it. You can't go back and rebattle the Elite 4, because hey presto, they're all now instantly sitting smugly around the Lv70/80 mark, as is every other important rebattle-able trainer you encountered along the story. There was a reason why FRLG and HGSS didn't do that until a significant way into the postgame, GameFreak. It's that the mid-level E4 are very good grinding material to get you toughened up quickly. Here you've got four routes of Lv60s (and pity those who have White, they don't even have the trainers in Black City to go up against) and then that's it. Into the Audino field with you.

And then there's the Battle Subway. This marks the second time that GameFreak has shoved its fingers in its ears and denied the existence of the Frontier, presumably so they can hype it up as being Super! Brand! New! again in Gray. Instead we get the Battle Tower yet again, this time laid on its side. Asides some graphics of train interior, it hasn't changed even slightly. Battle 7 trainers, get pathetic amount of BP. Attempt to reach 21, get snubbed by some astounding level of hax invariably at the 14th or 20th battle. And if you do reach the 21st, be astounded at a difficulty curve so steep it's a wonder the train doesn't crash into it. And if you do win? 10BP. That's not even enough to buy one of the power items. Y'know, those items that exist to help train your Pokémon to do well in the Subway are held back from you by not doing well enough in the Subway. I'd kind of hoped that we'd have ironed that one out, given its ever-irritating presence since Emerald. But I guess not.

So in summary, a game with plenty of great points but that ever-present GameFreak thing of holding back a load of stuff we thought had finally become standard, but apparently not.

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1,043. Posted:

Raylax wrote:

Also, the gap between the Elite 4 and the next batch of trainers you get to fight is enormous. Elite 4's at Lv45ish, but then you hit the new routes and people immediately start attacking you with Lv60 Gliscors. And there's barely anyone to rebattle. No Vs Seeker, no phone, no level-upped gym leaders. Between Lv50 and 65, your money suddenly feels like a very finite and precious resource, especially with the way you'll be steaming through Hyper Potions. OK, sure, you could just go grind against wild Lv50 Audino for a while. But that's incredibly boring after not very long, and you don't get any cash out of it. You can't go back and rebattle the Elite 4, because hey presto, they're all now instantly sitting smugly around the Lv70/80 mark, as is every other important rebattle-able trainer you encountered along the story. There was a reason why FRLG and HGSS didn't do that until a significant way into the postgame, GameFreak. It's that the mid-level E4 are very good grinding material to get you toughened up quickly. Here you've got four routes of Lv60s (and pity those who have White, they don't even have the trainers in Black City to go up against) and then that's it. Into the Audino field with you.

I totally agree with this. I'm currently stuck there. I've trained my starter up to level 60, but the rest of my party is still around level 50, and it's taking forever to train them! I've already taken a couple of breaks and have been playing Spirit Tracks because the grinding was getting so boring.

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1,044. Posted:

Ah, that was a great Post Raylax.

So in the end, I wasn't screwed, and after a second attempt, finally caught Victiny. All in all, I'm liking this game now. While I doubt it'll usurp HeartGold, which I'm constantly tempted to go back to, I am enjoying it a great deal.

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jaffa

1,045. Posted:

meh
Pokemon White was OK
but the lack of having the ability to fight Gym Leaders again is disappointing
I also got pretty bored since there's nothing to do
Overall just the whole game should've been longer

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1,046. Posted:

If there's anything that BW does, it's that it proves absolutely that Grey will be f'ing amazing.

In the meantime though, I think I'm going to play through HG again.

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Tasuki

1,047. Posted:

Ok forgive me if this is a stupid question but I just want to make sure I dont have to buy anything extra like cables or what not. I just bought Pokemon White for me and Black for my son. I will be playing White on an Original DS while he will be playing Black on a DS lite I picked up at Target on clearence. Now will I be able to trade Pokemon between the Original DS and the DS lite or will I need some sort of cable or device or something else?

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TeeJay

1,048. Posted:

Tasuki wrote:

Ok forgive me if this is a stupid question but I just want to make sure I dont have to buy anything extra like cables or what not. I just bought Pokemon White for me and Black for my son. I will be playing White on an Original DS while he will be playing Black on a DS lite I picked up at Target on clearence. Now will I be able to trade Pokemon between the Original DS and the DS lite or will I need some sort of cable or device or something else?

You can trade between the games just fine wirelessly between any two DS systems. :)

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Tasuki

1,049. Posted:

Tj92 wrote:

Tasuki wrote:

Ok forgive me if this is a stupid question but I just want to make sure I dont have to buy anything extra like cables or what not. I just bought Pokemon White for me and Black for my son. I will be playing White on an Original DS while he will be playing Black on a DS lite I picked up at Target on clearence. Now will I be able to trade Pokemon between the Original DS and the DS lite or will I need some sort of cable or device or something else?

You can trade between the games just fine wirelessly between any two DS systems. :)

Ok thanks I wasnt sure how it worked the only time I traded between DS systems was Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow and that was with two Original DSes.

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TwilightV

1,050. Posted:

Global Link will finally launch on April 13th! :)

Also, the Liberty Ticket event seems to have been extended, so be sure to get it if you haven't already!

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1,051. Posted:

Whats Global Link? The C-Gear stuff?

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1,052. Posted:

You can also Win a Rare Eevee is you play this game at Pokemon.com
http://www.pokemon.com/us/fun-zone/online-games/play-to-befri...
but, you need to make a profile, and beat the game, to win it.
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Xiao_Pai

1,053. Posted:

TwilightV wrote:

Global Link will finally launch on April 13th! :)

Also, the Liberty Ticket event seems to have been extended, so be sure to get it if you haven't already!

...Where are you seeing this?

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TwilightV

1,054. Posted:

http://en.pokemon-gl.com/pre/en.html
http://www.serebii.net

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Xiao_Pai

1,055. Posted:

All I see on the GL is that it's coming this Spring.

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TwilightV

1,056. Posted:

BellGoRiiing wrote:

All I see on the GL is that it's coming this Spring.

That's weird. It says "Coming April 13th" here...

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Xiao_Pai

1,057. Posted:

Oh NOW it updates...>_>

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YAAAAAAAAY!

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Rensch

1,058. Posted:

I can't wait for this. This is definitely the most significant additions to the game if you ask me.

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Xiao_Pai

1,059. Posted:

Ok, don't really feel like going through the whole thread, but...where's an EV attack training spot?

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RaiderZX

1,060. Posted:

Route 1 - Patrat and Lillipup (+1) Atk EV
http://www.serebii.net/games/evs.shtml
This lists them at the bottom of the page. :)

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