Topic: DS Lite better than DSi?

I find much more usage out of my DSi, since i have no ipod or camera. So, i use that as a camera and music player

and the matte finish.....GORGEOUS!!!

DSi kicks the crap out of DS lite. I mean like, download awesome games, take picture, listen to music, and so what if the battery lasts a few hours less (not half!), it's still a amazing piece of hardware!

The DSi battery is smaller then the other models' batteries. Since it is smaller(not half the size) it doesn't last as long. Having more going on is part of it but not completely. BTW, I did read the above post.

I have 12 games on the DSi that can never be played on the DS Lite. I haven't downloaded a single clock or calculator - those 12 games are games.

The amount of time I have played all 12 games more than justifies the DSi's price point - and that's not including the fun I've had with the cameras, MP3 player, and the potential for more to come.

I think that the DSi has only 1 flaw
No GBA slot
Who cares about the battery. The DS lite's battery lasts like 10 hours. Will you really play the DSi for 5 hours straight without being able to charge it? and if youre using it for longer than 5 hours,just turn down the brightness

I didn't have a DS, so I really debated this. I have a gba, so if I never see a VC, it won't be the end of the world for me. With a DS lite, wouldn't save a whole lot of space carrying around a gba, since i'd need to carry around the games. Plus, if i want to play gb/gbc games, I'd need to carry around either my gbc or gba anyways. The only thing it would really matter for is Guitar Hero (don't care), or transferring Pokemon from fire red/leaf green (since I think you can get all the Kanto Pokemon in Gold/Silver that won't be a problem once the DS remakes come out).

I really like mighty flip champs, so hopefully with more cheap and fun games like that it'll be awesome. I also like you can use both types of wireless. I don't use it much for internet browsing (have an iphone), but it'll be sweet for playing games online. A VC would really be icing on the cake for me, so I wouldn't have to carry other games around, could play old gb games with a backlight, and not have to dig though ebay to find old carts.

To be honest though, if I had a DS or DS Light already, I'd probably not upgrade until I got a VC. It's enough for me to choose a DSi over a DS Lite, but not enough for me to buy a DS twice.

Contrary to AlexSays idiotic fanboyish rambles the DSi actually has four times the RAM. (Source- Here and Here)
Also, the DS Phat/Lite has a combined 100 MHz CPU(s) and the DSi has a 133 MHz main CPU, yes only the main CPU is more powerful than the DS Phat/Lites main processor and co-processor combined!
Compared to the DS Lite this is a gaming PC.

And, on top of that the GBA has a 32-bit 16.8 MHz processor (the DSi is a 64-bit machine) so if they work hard, the emu should work.

Also, I was right!

Oh look, it's the recurring debate about the DSi's specs, complete with the usual suspects, and AlexSays throwing out ungrounded conjecture as fact.

Once again, here's a more reasoned look at the situation:

• The DSi does indeed have a considerably faster CPU and four times the RAM of the DS Lite.
• These upgraded specs are necessary for certain new features like the cameras and real-time distortion effects, smoother web browser, music playback with manipulation, etc.
• Nintendo specifically confirmed that there will be two new varieties of retail games on the shelves eventually: DSi-enhanced games, which will run on either system but will offer special features on the DSi; and DSi-exclusive games, that will not run at all on a standard DS/Lite.
• We don't know a whole lot about what these games will look like or how prevalent they will be, and it all depends greatly upon the success of the DSi going forward, as well as the related install-base to cost calculations made by developers.
• We do know, however, that these exclusive retail games will be accessing the special features of the DSi, like using the cameras in real-time for various gameplay innovations.
• If these exclusive games are able to access the special features of the DSi, they'll need to access the full specs that are required in order to use these features smoothly, so exclusive retail games will certainly be breaking the CPU and RAM limits of the DS Lite, at least while completing these special functions.
• Knowing how Nintendo's hardware generally works, if a game's code is able to use the additional RAM or CPU at all, it should be able to use it for whatever purpose it chooses; it isn't like a locked-down system where you could only access the upgraded specs in limited contexts through some kind of driver or abstraction layer.
• Conclusion: although this topic necessarily involves a good bit of speculation regarding the future, based on a reasoned consideration of the best information out there, it makes the most sense to conclude that DSi-exclusive retail games could make full use of the more powerful hardware of the DSi. Whether they actually do so or not, however, depends greatly on the developers themselves and their willingness going forward to throw development funding at retail releases that a good portion of the DS install base will not be able to play. That practical question remains to be answered.
• Additional conclusion: what AlexSays lacks in arguments and reasoning, he more than makes up for in brazen self-certainty.

The DSi obviously. DSiVC WILL come. Give it some time. As for lost of GBA slot, so? Solution to that is use your old GBA. I only have 1 GBA game, even though its one of the best GBA games (Fire Emblem), and I barely play it. And when I do play it, I can just use my sisters old Lite.

And ouch AlexSays. You need to do your research.

@warioswoods Thank you, thank you. I was starting to believe that there would be no DSi-exclusive or -enhanced games for the shiny new system, and all because of AlexSays's credibility.

The real question is... is the DSi worth the 170$. In my opinion no. If everyone else would have thought the same way they would have lowered the price quicker... and they would have made the new handheld they pushed back, because the DSi done so great, which will have the same features that the DSi upgraded to I'm sure. Had to throw in my other 2 cents.

It's like comparing 2 different makes/models of a car. Some have features that appeal so some people, and some have other features. If you don't like the features of the new model, get over it. Why do people still feel the need to gripe at us that have moved on?

As far as I was aware the story around the new handheld they pushed back had been refered to the time when Nintendo considerd having a gaming trinity which consisted of The home console, the gameboy and the DS. But due to the success of the DS and NOT the DSi the evolution of the GBA was pushed back. They hadnt relised exactly how well the DS was going to be accepted and were planning on continuing the Gameboy.
The DSi was concieved shortly after the wii was released with the idea that the wii was for groups of gamers and familys where as the DSi was suppposed to be something personal and individual.
As far as price goes, in the UK the price difference was about the price of a game and the 1000 nintendo points acted as a nice bonus and now that the Black DSi / Proffesor Layton package is out for the same price as the original DSi it really isnt as pricey as people think.

This comes from a proud current owner of original see through GBA, a couple of SP's, Silver Phat DS, a white DS Lite and of course a white DSi.

I haven't found anything that makes the DSi a viable purchase for me after getting the DS Lite, which I only got because the classic one was broken.

The DSiWare stuff mostly sucks big time. Clocks and Calculators.... yeah....cool....NOT. The only thing that looked cool was the new Mario vs. DK. But I already played Mario vs. DK 2 and the new game seemed much more of a level pack rather than a new game.

I don't care about camera's and all that stuff, but I do care about being able to play my big pile of old GBA games.

If you do not already own a DS Lite I guess its not really worth it. At least not if you want to play GBA games.

If they add a proper "Virtual Handheld" on the other hand, the story will be entirely different. That would just kick ass. But for now, I do not have a reason to buy a DSi.

I have a dsi and i like waaaay betetr than a ds lite. Also my battery has never been on red since i got it and i dont charge it much either. It is super awesome and with no gba slot it doesnt matter. the gba was like backup wen ds first came out cuz nintendo didnt no if ds would b good. now they no and dont need back up. also no one is forcing you to upgade so dont whien about it..im just saying i LOVE MY DSI

The Dsi is way beter.

Right now, it is up to personal preference, but when the DSiVC is launched, it will be hard for me to believe that the DS Lite would still be considered superior.

I think the "Virtual Handheld" would be the only reason I would need a DSi. I've never played the Game Boy Zeldas.

and MVDK2 was fun, but I'm not getting a DSi just to get the DSiWare MVDK. Besides, the first MVDK for GBA was the best in my opinion. I can play that on my DS Lite.

Long-story-short, the DSi isn't "better enough" for me to buy another handheld. DSiWare could be nice, in theory, but it's irksome that we existing DS/Lite owners are excluded from that. It would be like Microsoft releasing a new XBox with minimal hardware upgrades (lol, camera?), and only this new system could access XBL2 for downloadable content.

That being said, the DSi is a nice improvement to the system. It's just a shame that they're making such a big deal about it.

Actuall the 67 ARM Chip was upgraded to 133 Mhz, it still has the ARM 7 at 33.

As with everything in live, beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder. One man's trash and all. I do not play GBA anymore so the DSi is a better fit. Now if they offered a VC, yes, I would download, but I enjoy the larger screens and menu more than the DSlite. If you like GBA, then the lite is a better choice. IMO