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Eel

There's no need to do that.

Even then, they can just recolor her face using a different shade of gray... Though that might not work for yellow since she'd end up white, red or yellow... Not exactly good replacements for purple.

Edit: maybe replacing yellow with purple and recoloring any yellow details in white would work. Like in the second generation.

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There apparently is a need, seeing as how Jynx's card art in TCG kinda looks like someone spilled grape Kool-Aid all over it.

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Eel

I don't really care if they do, I actually like purple jynx more. And again, it would be really easy to do for them.

However, if they start to censor these... Let's just hope they don't remove a certain establishment in Celadon City.

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C-Olimar

Since they added wireless... could mystery gift work? It would be bloody brilliant if I could go into Game and get a Mew, or a surfing Pikachu for yellow...

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Eel

Mystery gift was never a thing in these games though.

It would certainly be nice if they offered surfing Pikachu, flying Pikachu and Mew in some way.

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Morpheel wrote:

I don't really care if they do, I actually like purple jynx more. And again, it would be really easy to do for them.

However, if they start to censor these... Let's just hope they don't remove a certain establishment in Celadon City.

I'm not against the new Jynx. I'm just curious as to how they'll go about it.

And, yikes... never thought they might remove the Game Corner... but, it has several Pokemon (some exclusive, I believe), and a few TMs. I don't think they can without crippling the game.

Maybe it'll get a higher rating in places where virtual gambling is frowned upon in games with kids as a huge demographic, and otherwise be left in peace? Worked for Earthbound Beginnings and Earthbound.

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skywake

The Game Corner actually caused the originals to have a higher age rating in Australia. And quite frankly given that we live in an age of micro-transactions where you're effectively gambling with real money? I can't see any reason why they'd need to alter it.

I really don't want them to change anything about the game other than the wireless communication. Maybe some way to save images you "print" in Pokemon Yellow. Possibly some kind of "event" system where you can get rare Pokemon. Or maybe even some kind of interaction with other Pokemon software. But beyond that? I really don't want to see any change to the core game.

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Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold and Silver were all rated G in Australia (Nintendo could technically still use these ratings and keep the games totally uncensored). From Crystal onward, the main series games received a G8+ rating (now known as PG) for "Mild gambling references". Mind you, these "mild gambling references" were also present in the previous G rated games. This pattern would continue for the main series games up until HeartGold/SoulSilver, which had the gambling activities replaced with the Voltorb Flip mini-game; then, from Generation V onward, the Game Corner was removed completely. In OR/AS, the former owner of the Game Corner is standing outside the building citing something to the effect of changing societal standards being the reason for its closure.

As of Generation VI, the main series games are receiving PG ratings again, though this time for "Mild themes and violence" in the case of X/Y (probably due to the particularly malicious motivations of the villains) and "Mild violence" for OR/AS. Technically, Nintendo should resubmit the games to the ratings board for reclassification if they intend to remove the gambling content from Crystal or the GBA/DS era games for a future VC release, as it would be ridiculous for these games to carry a PG warning for "gambling" when it has been excised.

It will be interesting to see if the slot machines are retained for the sake of preserving the original games as much as possible. I can't see Jynx really changing much (if at all) in the rerelease of the Generation I games as its colours were virtually indiscernible anyway. I wish they'd just leave it as it is. A couple of disgruntled Americans have a moan about something as innocuous as this and suddenly the rest of the world is subjected to such a ridiculous form of censorship. I would never have viewed Jynx as a negative stereotype (she's just a satirical portrayal of a Japanese fashion trend). Now those old Bugs Bunny cartoons in the public domain that depict persons of African descent in an unflattering (and often inhuman) light? THAT'S a problem.

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Eel

@DarthNocturnal: I had nothing better to do, so here's a quick idea of what a censored jynx would probably end up looking like:

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While this is awesome, and I will probably get Blue (Brother getting Yellow, My Wife is getting Red) I am disappointed that there isn't a Pokemon Bank function. Even if the Pokemon had to completely change for the new style, it would have helped getting some pretty rare Gen 1 pokemon.

If we had Pokemon Bank functions, then we'd be getting a ton of glitch Mews, among others.

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Morpheel wrote:

I had nothing better to do, so here's a quick idea of what a censored jynx would probably end up looking like:

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That's actually not bad. With Pokémon TCG, I think they had applied a filter or just quickly changed the hex value of the card in order to change its palette. It's really jarring because all of the black outlines had become purple as well. It was very lazily done.

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Eel

Wait, they changed that card on the Virtual Console version of Pokemon TCG? I noticed it looked weird all purple... But... I totally never ever thought it's because it was censored lol

Edit: and according to this, it was already censored in the original! They censored the censored version, that's quite something.

Well, I'd like to believe they'll have more care and actually modify the sprites for the main games. It's what they did with Gold, Silver and Crystal, after all.

But of course, they could totally just change all the black for purple and leave it like that.... Though it would certainly look odd in the Red/Blue Sprite, since there's no other colors to choose from.

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Silly_G

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and according to this, it was already censored in the original! They censored the censored version, that's quite something.

I had no idea that the international version was already censored. I had played the game back in the day and just assumed that it was uncensored because Jynx still appeared to be black.

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DarthNocturnal

I think I can see why they censored the censor. The blue shade was pretty dark. Still though, the VC censor could've probably been done a bit neater.

Also, reading that reminds me of the probably-forever-locked Card Pop, which is needed to get the two Phantom Cards. But rather then take the time to have a few copies granted to the player upon game start (Mega Man Battle Network did something similar with the menu formerly used for multiplayer), they did a Microsoft Paint-tier edit job on a card's artwork...

Here's an idea; give players a free Mew in our box system in R/B/Y, and make the GS Ball obtainable in Crystal. The event was translated and modified for the Western release, but the event itself was never used. Now seems to be a good time to change that. Change it so it's flagged as active after a certain ingame event (beating Elite 4, beating Red, etc), maybe?

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MarkyVigoroth

sillygostly wrote:

With Pokémon TCG, I think they had applied a filter or just quickly changed the hex value of the card in order to change its palette. It's really jarring because all of the black outlines had become purple as well. It was very lazily done.

The original card art appeared to have purple with a purple outline, though...
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:JynxBaseSet31.jpg

ERRATA: Looking at the TCRF page, I notice how strong the change was.

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Eel

The English card is censored too. In Japanese she was black.

And apparently they even changed the pokedex entry on the card to talk about her psychic powers, instead of the usual "hips and kisses" that her pokedex entries usually focus on.

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C-Olimar

@Morpheel My bad, I seemed to recall it was. However Mew was distributed then, I hope they replicate in the VC releases.

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Eel

I never ever attended any event during those days (there were none here as far as I know, and I was just 9), but I recall hearing that you had to place the cartridge in a machine that then added the pokemon to your save file.

Edit: aparently there were also events where you could just do a normal trade with a special version of the games loaded with several mews.

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