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rayword45

41. Posted:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

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@Chrono_Cross You're also not considering the fact that
1.PWR was a lazy port of the Wii Sports Resort version
2.It was a launch title, while WSR came out in the Wii's mid-late life.

If the 3DS is stronger than the Wii, this shouldn't be a problem.

And that's why some early X360 games look worse then late Wii games, right?

You can't compare a mid-late lifetime game to a launch game. Sin and Punishment for example looks better then some PS2 games, but that's not a fair comparison of power.

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@Chrono_Cross You're also not considering the fact that
1.PWR was a lazy port of the Wii Sports Resort version
2.It was a launch title, while WSR came out in the Wii's mid-late life.

If the 3DS is stronger than the Wii, this shouldn't be a problem.

If a launch window title is supposed to gauge system strength, then the Wii would've been stronger than the 360, as Twilight Princess looked comparable to or better than anything on the 360 at that point.

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43. Posted:

rayword45 wrote:

And that's why some early X360 games look worse then late Wii games, right?

A few launch 3DS games look worse than GameCube games.

TheLilK98 wrote:

Going straight by the numbers, the 3DS's abilities surpass the GameCube's and the Wii's.

Which brings you back to my earlier post:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

If the 3DS is stronger than the Wii, please explain why developers haven't figured that out yet.

TheLilK98 wrote:

If a launch window title is supposed to gauge system strength, then the Wii would've been stronger than the 360, as Twilight Princess looked comparable to or better than anything on the 360 at that point.

Twilight Princess is graphically superior to The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion? Wow.

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Chrono_Cross wrote:

rayword45 wrote:

And that's why some early X360 games look worse then late Wii games, right?

A few launch 3DS games look worse than GameCube games.

Chrono_Cross wrote:

If the 3DS is stronger than the Wii, please explain why developers haven't figured that out yet.

1. A few Wii games look like shovelware PS1 games.
2. Again, IT TAKES TIME.

Just to make myself clear, this isn't like a generation gap difference, or Wii vs X360. This is more like PS3 vs X360. The difference isn't that great but it will be noticeable in due time.

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Twilight Princess looked comparable to or better than anything on the 360 at that point.

False. Even for a Wii game, TP looks like dog crap on a screen. Had it come out on the X360 I can assure you the reviewers would not be kind.

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Because the 3DS has only been out for 2 and half years, and everyone is too busy figuring out how to make the 3D work, let alone the graphics up to par? I thought that was obvious?

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46. Posted:

rayword45 wrote:

1. A few Wii games look like shovelware PS1 games.
2. Again, IT TAKES TIME.

It's like you don't think I know this, let alone, already said it. Which I did, lol.

Fans need to understand the reality of this situation, though.

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rayword45 wrote:

1. A few Wii games look like shovelware PS1 games.
2. Again, IT TAKES TIME.

It's like you don't think I know this, let alone, already said it. Which I did, lol.

Fans need to understand the reality of this situation, though.

It's like you think you make it obvious you know this, yet you compare a mid-late lifetime game with a launch title.

Unless you meant the former.

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Chrono_Cross wrote:

A few launch 3DS games look worse than GameCube games.

Exactly my point. We can all agree that the 3DS is stronger than the GameCube, which reinforces my point in respect to your Wii Sports Resort comment.

TheLilK98 wrote:

Going straight by the numbers, the 3DS's abilities surpass the GameCube's and the Wii's.

Which brings you back to my earlier post:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

If the 3DS is stronger than the Wii, please explain why developers haven't figured that out yet.

Which goes back to my earlier post:

TheLilK98 wrote:

Revelations was made before the "third eye" of the 3DS was unlocked, so Capcom couldn't go all-out with it.

For a more direct response, the 3DS's full power wasn't accessible until mid-2012. As for the devs, some are lazy, other have, and others haven't.

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49. Posted:

rayword45 wrote:

It's like you think you make it obvious you know this

Comprehending my posts would be a good start. Take the time if you need to.

TheLilK98 wrote:

For a more direct response, the 3DS's full power wasn't accessible until mid-2012. As for the devs, some are lazy, other have, and others haven't.

You're not getting my point. As of now, no games are graphically superior to the Wii's line up. Hopefully in time, developers will unlock the system's potential.

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It's hard to comprehend the incomprehencable. :P

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Chrono_Cross wrote:

rayword45 wrote:

It's like you think you make it obvious you know this

Comprehending my posts would be a good start. Take the time if you need to.

TheLilK98 wrote:

For a more direct response, the 3DS's full power wasn't accessible until mid-2012. As for the devs, some are lazy, other have, and others haven't.

You're not getting my point. As of now, no games are graphically superior to the Wii's line up. Hopefully in time, developers will unlock the system's potential.

I get what you're saying, but the fact of the matter is that there ARE graphically superior games on the 3DS.

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It's hard to comprehend the incomprehensible. :P

To a minor degree, yes. It's hard to comprehend why someone would compare a game released 3 years into the system's lifetime to a game released on the very first day.

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Because the 3DS has only been out for 2 and half years...

You lucky mofo, having your 3DS since mid-2010. I had to wait until March 2011 to get mine.

  

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54. Posted:

CanisWolfred wrote:

It's hard to comprehend the incomprehencable. :P

Hey now, stop using big words. :-P

TheLilK98 wrote:

I get what you're saying, but the fact of the matter is that there ARE graphically superior games on the 3DS.

Superior is a key word.

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Chrono_Cross wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

It's hard to comprehend the incomprehencable. :P

Hey now, stop using big words. :-P

TheLilK98 wrote:

I get what you're saying, but the fact of the matter is that there ARE graphically superior games on the 3DS.

Superior is a key word.

Then name the best looking Wii game you can think of.

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56. Posted:

rayword45 wrote:

To a minor degree, yes. It's hard to comprehend why someone would compare a game released 3 years into the system's lifetime to a game released on the very first day.

Let's compare Super Mario 3D Land to Super Mario Galaxy, then. That's pretty fair.

Or Twlight Princess to Ocarina of Time 3D, New Super Mario Bros. 2 to Wii, Mario Kart 7 to Wii, and the other games that are comparable. Preferrably third party.

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Then name the best looking Wii game you can think of.

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. No, Muramasa The Demon Blade. I can't decide.

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CanisWolfred wrote:

Because the 3DS has only been out for 2 and half years...

You lucky mofo, having your 3DS since mid-2010. I had to wait until March 2011 to get mine.

Maybe he's Japanese? :P Or actually, he's just using the release date since that's when we judge from a fair point.

EDIT: Which is still only 2 years.

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rayword45 wrote:

To a minor degree, yes. It's hard to comprehend why someone would compare a game released 3 years into the system's lifetime to a game released on the very first day.

Let's compare Super Mario 3D Land to Super Mario Galaxy, then. That's pretty fair.

Or Twlight Princess to Ocarina of Time 3D, New Super Mario Bros. 2 to Wii, Mario Kart 7 to Wii, and the other games that are comparable. Preferrably third party.

Super Mario 3D Land looks a bit worse than SMG, but either way, both look pretty decent but I assume both look tons better upscaled (since both are pretty jaggedy at times). MK7 looks worse yet has a better framerate. Dunno about NSMB. Both look average at best.

I'm not comparing the Zelda ports.

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Super Mario Galaxy is far from jaggy. Very smooth environments and character models. 3D Land, on the other hand.

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I'll give you TP and SMG. MK7 wins. Never seen NSMB2 in person. RER wins vs the RE4 port. The 3DS version of Rohdea the Sky Soldier looked better than the Wii version, and KI:U looked better than both. Despite being a lazy port AND launch title, PWR is comprable to WSR.

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