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Panthon13

41. Posted:

@zbone Agreed. The PSP2 will be all about graphics.. .although I am very interested in the dual analogs. I wish the 3DS would have had that. And, I was hoping for some springy triggers with buttons at the bottom, for sensitive button pressure.

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42. Posted:

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The PSP's graphics were a HUGE step above the DS's, but the DS actually has good games.

The PSP has some great games.

What I'm most excited about for PSP2 is the inevitable price drop on the PSP-3000. I need to get my Peace Walkin' on.

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43. Posted:

Can you imagine what the price of the PSP2 will be this fall?

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44. Posted:

Only those who never really played games on the PSP will say the PSP has no great games.

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Yeah, PSP has some great games, and i'm tempted to buy a PSP or Playstation 3, but i'm 1000% loyal to Nintendo.

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I want Monster Hunter Freedom Unite so bad!!

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TheColorsOfSonic wrote:

Yeah, PSP has some great games, and i'm tempted to buy a PSP or Playstation 3, but i'm 1000% loyal to Nintendo.

You could always buy a used PSP, that way you'd still stay loyal to Ninty buy not giving money to their competitors while still enjoying Monster Hunters Freedom Unite.

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48. Posted:

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4. Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the continuously attacked battery life of the 3DS set at the highest settings? With maximum brightness, 3D, and internet use, I'd say 3-5 hours isn't bad. I'd also imagine that said battery life will double if you turn off the internet and turn down the backlight, though that's just my theory.

Nintendo hasn't really specified the settings being used for that battery estimate. Given the wording, and until Nintendo says otherwise, I have to assume that with 3 to 5 hours is the total range of the battery's life when playing 3DS games (meaning that 5 hours is the maximum battery life when using the system at its lowest brightness settings.

I agree that battery life should improve if you disable the wireless communication, although this would eliminate several of the system's interesting features as well. Hopefully, Nintendo will clarify their battery estimates by specifying what options and settings were active when attaining their baselines.

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49. Posted:

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Only those who never really played games on the PSP will say the PSP has no great games.

That's not true... I have 38 PSP games, and a good portion of them I started playing, got bored, and didn't finish.

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I want Monster Hunter Freedom Unite so bad!!

Well, a 3rd one is coming out, but plan on them moving to the 3DS after that. The producer even said something like "With the 3DS coming out, I think it's time for Monster Hunter to move to a new hardware." Success on the Wii led them to the decision.

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I'm excited about the 3DS, but not enough to go buy it on launch day. Most likely I will end up waiting until a "3DS Lite" or something of that sort is released. Although I think that the 3DS will have a fairly good start, I don't see it being as popular as the DS, at least not for a year or two. Also, in regard to the price, I don't really understand why some people think that $250 USD is too much. If it had launched at $300 I would think that that was reasonable. I mean, the iPod touch launched at $300 and at the time it was mostly viewed as an mp3 player, and the PSP launched at $250. The iPad launched at $500 and it's basically just a giant iPod touch.
@Jon Wahlgren: Yeah, I'm pretty excited for the price drop on the PSP as well. I've been spending most of my money on games for my DS and Wii, so I haven't had any for a PSP, which I've wanted for a while.

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jaw51 wrote:

I'm excited about the 3DS, but not enough to go buy it on launch day. Most likely I will end up waiting until a "3DS Lite" or something of that sort is released. Although I think that the 3DS will have a fairly good start, I don't see it being as popular as the DS, at least not for a year or two. Also, in regard to the price, I don't really understand why some people think that $250 USD is too much. If it had launched at $300 I would think that that was reasonable. I mean, the iPod touch launched at $300 and at the time it was mostly viewed as an mp3 player, and the PSP launched at $250. The iPad launched at $500 and it's basically just a giant iPod touch.
@Jon Wahlgren: Yeah, I'm pretty excited for the price drop on the PSP as well. I've been spending most of my money on games for my DS and Wii, so I haven't had any for a PSP, which I've wanted for a while.

As far as a 3DS lite, or anything for that matter, there is really only so much they can do. Upgrading the cameras would be a pointless upgrade, unless you use the 3DS as a camera. Stupid. Increasing battery life could be as simple as a new battery design. A new system for it would be just as profitable to them, because it would be like a 30 dollar difference. And the last thing I could think of was updating the 3DS screens for better 3D view, a wider sweet spot or something. But that's it. I wouldn't think there is much more they could do to the system before ading something on it that would only work with some games, while the normal 3DS couldn't play them becasue of the lack of a feature. The DSi did that, and it didn't come out until about 4-5 years later.

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53. Posted:

IMO, considering what the 3DS can do, the price seems pretty reasonable. It's about time for the handheld market to step up specially when people are willing to pay £200ish for an iPod Touch. Plus the rumors on PSP2 suggest that isn't likely to be a cheap piece of kit itself.

I can't really make a judgement on the system itself as I haven't played it yet, but then I didn't need to see the DS to be sold on it from the Phats release nor did I need proof for the DSi. I'm the same about 3DS, enough journalists have been making the right names for it to suggest the system is something special. The launch titles are maybe not the best advocates, but then the DS had a rather rotten launch line up too (with Mario 64 DS the only real standout title) . Considering the likes of Sprung, Pokemon Dash and Asphalt Racing populated the launch line up for DS, the 3DS's potential list isn't really that bad (DOA, SFIV and Nintendogs are almost certainly destined for launch and seem decent enough!)

Also the lack of a firm price means retailers are much more willing to take chances and a few have defied pricing conventions to offer the system for much cheaper. Anyone bothered by the £230 that Game and Gamestation put on it can easily find a cheaper deal elsewhere (unless your keen on trading something to get it for a more reasonable cost). In this day and age why put up with the high street mark-up?

I'm not going to pretend the launch games will be keepers or classics, if theres even one good game in there thats really worth its salt past the novelty factor it'll be a bonus. Launch adopters are there to be at the forefront of the experience, spread the word, and give devs an idea of what will fly on this system and what won't. Though its a shame Ubi-Soft are doing what they did at the original DS launch and giving us Rayman 2 at launch AGAIN (even though its cheap as chips on iOS devices these days!)

As for the PSP 2, while we won't know anything till Sony officially unveil this thing on Saturday, anything could go with this one. It could be the most amazing system with specs that utterly shame the 3DS, but the big question will be; "Has Sony learned to support a handheld system properly?". The original PSP was expected to utterly trash the DS due to its specs and the fact it could do way more out the box. However Sony gave it's own handheld very few exclusives or attention, and ported the really popular titles to PS2 anyway. It spent years languishing as simply a system that was home to ports and a few remakes till the small push Sony made last year. But then they screwed that up by introducing the PSP Go to market, while it may of fixed the firmware issue, nobody is ready for a fully digital purchasing model (specially when theres only one outlet to pick your software from...)

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54. Posted:

Syd-Valak wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

Only those who never really played games on the PSP will say the PSP has no great games.

That's not true... I have 38 PSP games, and a good portion of them I started playing, got bored, and didn't finish.

What games?

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Mickeymac wrote:

Syd-Valak wrote:

Mickeymac wrote:

Only those who never really played games on the PSP will say the PSP has no great games.

That's not true... I have 38 PSP games, and a good portion of them I started playing, got bored, and didn't finish.

What games?

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FF Crisis Core
Disgaea 1 & 2
Grand Theft Auto Chinatown
GTA Vice City Stories
FF Dissidia
FF1 & 2
FF Tactics Lion Wars
Crimson Gem Saga
Legend of Heros 1 2 & 3
KH Birth By Sleep
Megaman Maverick Hunter X
Megaman Powered Up
Tales of the World
Tales of Eternia
Valhalla Knights 1 & 2
Ys 7
Valkyrie Profile Lenneth
Star Ocean 1 & 2
Silent Hill Origins and Shattered Memories
Phantasy Star Portable 1 & 2
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite
Namco Museam
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker and Portable Ops
Little Big Planet
Breath Of Fire 3
Hexyz Force
Gangs Of London
Brave Story New Traveler.

EDIT: Oh, and Prinny can I really be a Hero - hard as heck of a game, and Space Invaders EXtreme

Big RPG fan. XD From the list, there were good ones, I just got bored going through them. A lot of them were just the same repetative crap with a little more than decent graphics. I think the 3DS will be much more satisfying, seeing that the game card capacity will reach a maximum of 8gbs.

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56. Posted:

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Stuffgamer1 wrote:

@lz: Right...which is, as WaltzElf said, a less intuitive way to do things. Plus I'm sure you'll still have to exchange codes through a medium other than the system itself, meaning no online friend requests (yes, I know you can exchange data via StreetPass, but that's still local-only as far as I know). It would be easier to memorize and tell your friends your screen name than your number, after all. I'm Stuffgamer1 everywhere I go, but danged if I have a clue what any of my friend codes are.:P

Well there are several options: E-mail, chat, text, N-life, etc...

Again, not intuitive. I play a game with an online random on PS3. I enjoy the game. I can add that person to my friends list there and then, no code required. having to go on a forum to add people to a friends list... That's not exactly efficient.

And the PS3 has nothing on the Xbox when it comes to the online experience. Until Nintendo can offer at least what Sony offers, its lagging.

Online is my only real concern with the 3DS, but given most of my gaming, buying and playing, is done online now, it's a biggy.

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I think the 3DS will be successful, but not as successful as the regular DS was. Here's why:

1) Price. $250 is a lot for a handheld. 8GB iTouches run for $230. This is going to be too much change for parents to drop on their kids, at least initially. I think when it hits the $200 mark, you'll see more kids getting it.

2) Same name as the DS. On the one hand the DS has a good reputation, and all of the newer iterations sold very well WITHOUT offering much new. On the other hand, with all the DS iterations, how many uninformed parents will think this is a DS Lite with a 3D screen?

3) Smartphones. 3-4 years ago, I would see a fair amount of adults playing with DS's on the metro. Now most people kill time on their commute with their iPhone/Droid/Blackberry etc. For most adult casual gamers, they're just looking for something to distract them on their commute, trips, etc. Angry Birds and Sudoku do that well enough on a device they already are carrying around with them.

The console will sell well, and I definitely plan on getting it. I just don't see Ninty having the same success as the DS.

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Token Girl wrote:

I think the 3DS will be successful, but not as successful as the regular DS was. Here's why:

1) Price. $250 is a lot for a handheld. 8GB iTouches run for $230. This is going to be too much change for parents to drop on their kids, at least initially. I think when it hits the $200 mark, you'll see more kids getting it.

2) Same name as the DS. On the one hand the DS has a good reputation, and all of the newer iterations sold very well WITHOUT offering much new. On the other hand, with all the DS iterations, how many uninformed parents will think this is a DS Lite with a 3D screen?

The console will sell well, and I definitely plan on getting it. I just don't see Ninty having the same success as the DS.

1.$20 less is nothing. Also the 3DS has the advantage over the itouch that the average consumer can see like "real" games, 3D, and two screens. Who buys an Ipod touch to useas a handheld anyway, and for their kid, or would give them the credit card for that? It loses the whole I advantage of being a mediocre phone.

2. Come on people are not that dumb. This could only happen if the advertising and media coverage is really weak, which is not and wont not. Did the GBA sink because of the GBC?

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1. The iTouch can also be a personal PDA, has a proven web browser (no flash, but fast and doesn't crash loading major sites, like the DSi does), apps for EVERYTHING, not just gaming related, one click syncing of music, can play digital copies of movies that come with DVD/Bluray along with a huge selection that can already be purchased from the app store, and ports of some full 3rd party DS games - for CHEAPER than on the DS. Example - GTA Chinatown Wars. Sure the 3DS PROMISES to do many of these things, but the iTouch has already been doing it for a while. So, $20 less IS significant, especially when in many ways, you're getting more.

And, frankly, most of the casuals Nintendo sold DS's too don't need real games...they just want to kill time on the train or waiting in line. iPhone/iTouch games do that. The people who want bigger games on the go are a much smaller market. Like I said, I used to see adults playing with DS's on the subway all the time. I NEVER see it now. How likely are people who haven't played their DS since they got a smartphone to buy it's successor, if they're happy with what's offered on mobile app stores?

2) I never said it would sink. I said it wouldn't do as well initially. There were about 3 years between the GBC and the GBA, It'll be pretty much a year to the date between the DSi XL's and 3DS launch. People aren't stupid, but most aren't nose into the video game websites like we are.

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I personally think that the 3DS won't do to badly compared to everything else because it does have an edge over other devices. (Mainly the 3D) Sure, the i-touch is great for casual gamers killing time, but for games with more depth and interactivity, a hand-held console with always trump a smart-phone. If they advertise the 3DS well. It could be very successful.

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