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Syd-Valak wrote:

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I'm curious as to what Sony is going to do with the PSP2....Give it dual analog control?lol
Graphics will be better than the 3DS's that's a given, but I'm wondering if they're going to go dual screen, with touch controls and 3D without glasses.

Anyways, I haven't been this excited for a new gaming system....Since, well, the Wii! :p I can't wait to get my hands on the 3DS muhaha.

The PSP2 has dual analog sticks, a trackpad touchpad on the back of the system, it will look similar to the first models of the PSP, not the PSP Go!, it will have a full HD screen, possibly touch, that is around 5-5.3 inches, 1 inch larger than it is now. Other than that, I haven't picked up too much more.

EDIT: Info on this system is supposed to be announced on January 27th.

I heard that the PSP2 will have PS3 graphics. But even with those fancy graphics, the PSP2 won't stand a chance against Nintendo's powerful gameplay.

Agreed....And the 3D, and the Hand held Virtual Console ect ect.lol Hell, the original PSP was such a dissapointment for me. There are only maybe a few titles in it's entire library that ineterest me and those are Mega Man Powered Up and Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblins. :p But the PSP2 could be pretty damn sweet, but at this point I just don't care regardless since I'm riding the 3DS hype train and I'm not getting off for nobody! :p

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Even thought I still tend to prefer the PSP over the DS system, I'll admit it's going to take something awfully impressive to outdo the excitement I feel for the 3DS. I'll contain my speculation until I know more about the PSP2, but it's going to have to be one mind-blowing piece of hardware to compete with the 3DS. :D

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Im definitely going to get one. Just for the fact that Nintendo makes the best games. With 3d capability and the vastly improved graphics how can you lose. Game play has always been Nintendos biggest strong point so I'm not even worried about that. We've always wanted better graphics from Nintendo and if the early games look this good just think in two years what the potential could be. I'm excited for all the remakes and a lot of the companies jumping on board to make games that Nintendo has never seen or its just been way to long since we seen a certain franchise on one of there systems before. I hope it doesn't just become a system for to many ports thought because to many people will say been there done that. I can see myself owning 10 to 15 games by years end if the price is right!

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I'm with the Nintendo 3DS 100%. The graphics on it look stunning and the addition of VC very good. I hate when I hear people say that it is going to fail like the virtual boy. Thats old news now and it is not going to. Nintendo is very creative when they create consoles, and thats how they beat their competitors. I think Nintendo knows this device is going to sell very well. I got goosebumps just watching the trailer to SSF4 3D edition, so I know I'm gonna get it. Not on launch date,sadly, but sometime before May.

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I'm with the Nintendo 3DS 100%. The graphics on it look stunning and the addition of VC very good. I hate when I hear people say that it is going to fail like the virtual boy. Thats old news now and it is not going to. Nintendo is very creative when they create consoles, and thats how they beat their competitors. I think Nintendo knows this device is going to sell very well. I got goosebumps just watching the trailer to SSF4 3D edition, so I know I'm gonna get it. Not on launch date,sadly, but sometime before May.

That was my whole point of making this thread. I was tired of hearing the crap about how it was going to do bad, or the graphics weren't as good as they should be, like the PSP2 will be. Remember, the pricing on the PSP2 will be derived from it's graphics, the price of the 3DS will be based on affordability. If the graphics on the 3DS were as good as what the PSP2 is going to have, this system would cost $350 USD easy. But they want something that everyone can afford, like the Wii in comparison to the PS3. And the quality of the games is always good. I've never played a game and said I didn't like it, or more specifically, I felt let down because it wasn't done right, at least from Nintendo made games. (Except.... Phantom Hourglass... oh man... that hurt)

The PSP was just.... let down after let down.

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I think the 3DS will sell well after a few years, and will definitely overkill the sales of a PSP2. This will be the pinnacle of handheld gaming, and it'll take a LOT of effort to surpass it, and from what I've read about the PSP2 so far, the only thing it has over the 3DS is HD graphics and maybe dual analog. Just basically a handheld version of their console, just like what the PSP1 was to the PS2, whereas the 3DS is a handheld version of the Wii, PLUS 3D graphics, better online, a touch screen, cameras, and a lot more room for developer creativity. Don't get me wrong; I DO like Sony a lot (especially after experiencing the awesome graphics of the PSP for the first time), but I like Nintendo even more and also think that the 3DS will do a lot better than Sony's handheld, mainly because of its immense amount of features. But, I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

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I think the 3DS will sell well after a few years, and will definitely overkill the sales of a PSP2. This will be the pinnacle of handheld gaming, and it'll take a LOT of effort to surpass it, and from what I've read about the PSP2 so far, the only thing it has over the 3DS is HD graphics and maybe dual analog. Just basically a handheld version of their console, just like what the PSP1 was to the PS2, whereas the 3DS is a handheld version of the Wii, PLUS 3D graphics, better online, a touch screen, cameras, and a lot more room for developer creativity. Don't get me wrong; I DO like Sony a lot (especially after experiencing the awesome graphics of the PSP for the first time), but I like Nintendo even more and also think that the 3DS will do a lot better than Sony's handheld, mainly because of its immense amount of features. But, I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

Nintendo will always be one step ahead of everyone else with inventive, new, addicting gameplay and game depth. They set the bar while the rest just trip under it, trying to offer improvements over what Nintendo already has done while Nintendo moves ahead.

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Syd-Valak wrote:

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I think the 3DS will sell well after a few years, and will definitely overkill the sales of a PSP2. This will be the pinnacle of handheld gaming, and it'll take a LOT of effort to surpass it, and from what I've read about the PSP2 so far, the only thing it has over the 3DS is HD graphics and maybe dual analog. Just basically a handheld version of their console, just like what the PSP1 was to the PS2, whereas the 3DS is a handheld version of the Wii, PLUS 3D graphics, better online, a touch screen, cameras, and a lot more room for developer creativity. Don't get me wrong; I DO like Sony a lot (especially after experiencing the awesome graphics of the PSP for the first time), but I like Nintendo even more and also think that the 3DS will do a lot better than Sony's handheld, mainly because of its immense amount of features. But, I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

Nintendo will always be one step ahead of everyone else with inventive, new, addicting gameplay and game depth. They set the bar while the rest just trip under it, trying to offer improvements over what Nintendo already has done while Nintendo moves ahead.

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mark3 wrote:

Syd-Valak wrote:

Qwikman+%26+Bass wrote:

I think the 3DS will sell well after a few years, and will definitely overkill the sales of a PSP2. This will be the pinnacle of handheld gaming, and it'll take a LOT of effort to surpass it, and from what I've read about the PSP2 so far, the only thing it has over the 3DS is HD graphics and maybe dual analog. Just basically a handheld version of their console, just like what the PSP1 was to the PS2, whereas the 3DS is a handheld version of the Wii, PLUS 3D graphics, better online, a touch screen, cameras, and a lot more room for developer creativity. Don't get me wrong; I DO like Sony a lot (especially after experiencing the awesome graphics of the PSP for the first time), but I like Nintendo even more and also think that the 3DS will do a lot better than Sony's handheld, mainly because of its immense amount of features. But, I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

Nintendo will always be one step ahead of everyone else with inventive, new, addicting gameplay and game depth. They set the bar while the rest just trip under it, trying to offer improvements over what Nintendo already has done while Nintendo moves ahead.

Correct. Always. And sometimes they get people that want to copy them.(cough...cough...Playstation move)

That made me so mad that they did that. And it was so obvious too. "Look guys! Now you can have the fun of the Wii on your PS3!"

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I get the feeling Sony's gonna do this for every generation from now on. wait for it, wait for it, okay now everyone else has their consoles on the market. "hey everybody, we have the best graphics and the most up to date technology. play this new game not that 3 month older technology"

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I get the feeling Sony's gonna do this for every generation from now on. wait for it, wait for it, okay now everyone else has their consoles on the market. "hey everybody, we have the best graphics and the most up to date technology. play this new game not that 3 month older technology"

They're still sour since they were booted from the Nintendo team back at the end of the SNES era.

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I have a Japanese 3DS ordered, ready for day 1 delivery.

I have no doubt that it'll be a good piece of kit, and will look amazing. I'll see this for myself at the Australian press event, I guess, but I also have some serious reservations about the online experience.

I know Nintendo fans are either comfortable with an inferior online expeirence, or happily ignorant of what's available on other consoles, but as someone who owns and iPhone, iPad and PSPGo, (Nintendo's three major competitors in the handheld space) I still see the 3DS as lagging.

Based on the announcements I've read - I see a slightly upgraded online shop (good thing), the addition of the Virtual Console (very good thing). But then fast shopping and a good interface is something common to all three rival consoles already. So Nintendo's just come up to speed here.

However, I suspect the size of games available on the 3DSware will be limited, like the Wii or DSiWare. The fact that Nintendo seems to believe a 2GB SD card is of sufficient size suggests that, to Nintendo's plans for the online shop, 2GB is quite a lot of space. By contract I can download Final Fantasy IX, all 1.5GB of it, and still have a tonne of space left on my PSPGo (and a easy-to-use computer transfer/ archive option when I do run out of space.. no word on a "Media Go" software with the 3DS).

I'm also a big fan of the switch from points, to actual currency. It should allow a greater degree of flexibility when it comes to pricing games, and hopefully prevent the common situation where you'd have a couple hundred points sitting on the account, with nothing to spend the points on. But again, all three rivals offer this already, so Nintendo's just come up to speed there as well.

Where I'm really concerned Nintendo has again dropped the ball is the online experience. Friend codes are back - It's one universal code, which is better, but with the PSN/ iOS devices, there are no codes, just usernames - with is far more intuitive in application.

There are also no achievements. I'll preempt the usual "I don't care about achievements" reply and say: then they're not for you. For other people, achievements are anything from a fun addition to a downright necessity. That's why Apple felt the need to insert achievements into its gaming service (not having it previously), and you can bet the PSP2 will have PSN trophy support. Props to Nintendo for trying to be different, but there are times when, if all your competitors are doing something, there's probably a good reason for it, and you should develop an equivilent yourself.

So yeah, I have very mixed feelings about the 3DS. As a toy, a gadget or a novelty, the machine looks awesome, and I'll be buying multiples (thanks to the "wonderful" region locking), because I don't want to miss out on the better games on the console.

But I also doubt the 3DS will return Nintendo to the leagues of the hardcore. I think the console will sell in bucketloads, but longer term, just like the DSi and Wii, its ultimate appeal will be to the casual audience who don't mind missing out on a whole lot of functionality in lieu of a very easy-to-use experience.

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Calling the 3DS "the next Virtual Boy" is absolutely hilarious. I guarantee you the thing will sell more on its launch days (that would be Feb. 26 in Japan, Mar. 25 in PAL regions, and Mar. 27 in North America) than the VB did over its entire life cycle. Not too hard to do, since the fool thing didn't even break a million units.

As I've stated several times before, Sony was developing the tech behind the Move as early as 2005, if not earlier...it was originally going to go with the PS2's Eye Toy. They decided the tech just wasn't good enough yet and put it off. I won't say the success of the Wii didn't encourage them to finish the project, but it was most certainly NOT the cause.

Now, on to the main topic: I do indeed have a 3DS reserved, simply because I want one. It's the new Nintendo system, and I'm not risking the major pain it was to get a Wii near launch again. Besides, I want to play it for myself and see what all the hubbub is about!

That said, WaltzElf makes a number of very good points. There are, as usual, certain concessions we have to make in order to experience the latest and greatest Nintendo stuff. As excited for the 3DS as I am, I'll definitely be more so when/if they finally release a new system that's completely caught up with the competition.

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Stuffgamer1 wrote:

As excited for the 3DS as I am, I'll definitely be more so when/if they finally release a new system that's completely caught up with the competition.

It works both ways though. Nintendo's consoles generally don't have all the same features as Sony and Microsoft consoles do, but they also do things those consoles can't do at all. People talk about Nintendo having to "catch up" to the other companies in their features, but clearly the other companies have always been doing their own catching up, notably in the recent motion control bandwagon going around.

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@moosa: Quite so. So imagine if Nintendo did all the stuff that keeps it ahead of the competition AND the stuff the fans want it to do that the competition already does. That would be even better!:D

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Where I'm really concerned Nintendo has again dropped the ball is the online experience. Friend codes are back - It's one universal code, which is better, but with the PSN/ iOS devices, there are no codes, just usernames - with is far more intuitive in application.

The only real difference I see is you input a number instead of a username for each friend

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@lz: Right...which is, as WaltzElf said, a less intuitive way to do things. Plus I'm sure you'll still have to exchange codes through a medium other than the system itself, meaning no online friend requests (yes, I know you can exchange data via StreetPass, but that's still local-only as far as I know). It would be easier to memorize and tell your friends your screen name than your number, after all. I'm Stuffgamer1 everywhere I go, but danged if I have a clue what any of my friend codes are.:P

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Stuffgamer1 wrote:

@lz: Right...which is, as WaltzElf said, a less intuitive way to do things. Plus I'm sure you'll still have to exchange codes through a medium other than the system itself, meaning no online friend requests (yes, I know you can exchange data via StreetPass, but that's still local-only as far as I know). It would be easier to memorize and tell your friends your screen name than your number, after all. I'm Stuffgamer1 everywhere I go, but danged if I have a clue what any of my friend codes are.:P

Well there are several options: E-mail, chat, text, N-life, etc...

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I just don't understand the massive amount of complaints about the 3DS. I mean, I might expect this from some other website, but here? Seriously? I'm not saying this site should be exclusive to only the purest of Nintendo fanboys, but many of the complaints I hear over and over again are ludicrous, and I find it surprising that such ridiculous claims are made at a Nintendo fan-site.
1. I disagree about Nintendo being behind its competitors. The only way they were more advanced than the Wii was by actual power. That said, they only just now caught up to the Wii's motion controllers (and never to the DS's touch screens as far as I know), and so are just now more advanced than the Wii, having all of the current technology. Keep in mind, however, that the Wii is the only system to not have a complete overhaul, and also the only system to not break the $300+ just-for-the-system mark.
2. What's wrong with friend codes? People keep telling me Nintendo has terrible online services, both because of its store and its friend codes, but I never can understand. I'd say the Nintendo store, though having sometimes unfair pricing, is by far the best of all gaming devices. That is, unless you can tell me of another system with so many excellent games available. The oft-quoted size limit can be annoying, but it kept me from having to pay $350 at launch so I could have enough space to store all the oversized games the competition puts out, and as far as I know the only game I missed was Meat Boy. Both the 360 and PS3 suffer from lack of storage. Every year there seems to be at least one new model featuring larger storage. Well I for one prefer buying a system just once, and have had my Wii since the beginning without ever running out of room, despite downloading hundreds of dollars of games of all types. As for the friend codes, I actually prefer them in some cases. Though it is easier to remember a username than a sequence of numbers, half of the usernames out there have numbers in them, half of the time enough to make the name hard to remember. I also enjoy the lack of screaming maniacs who think cussing makes them cool, which seems to be prevalent in competitors' games, particularly the Xbox. That said, I do wish Nintendo would make better use of the microphone in their games (especially Mariokart). Then there's lag. Of my experience with the 3 consoles and DS (not the PSP), the Wii oftentimes seems to have the least. Maybe I've just been lucky, but the only lag I've seen on the Wii is in Tenkaichi 3. The other two systems have lag often, and sometimes it is very substantial, completely ruining a match. I've never seen any lag on the DS, but I should mention I haven't played many lag-likely games on it.
4. Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the continuously attacked battery life of the 3DS set at the highest settings? With maximum brightness, 3D, and internet use, I'd say 3-5 hours isn't bad. I'd also imagine that said battery life will double if you turn off the internet and turn down the backlight, though that's just my theory.
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The 3DS is amazing and I've never seen it's actual screen in person. But assuming the 3D is good, as I've heard, all the other features of the 3DS are just incredible and I'm happy the games won't be expensive. I'll probably wait a while to get one. I'm hoping for a Zelda 25th Anniversary Edition 3DS to come out for the holidays. :)

And to people saying the PSP 2 will have better graphics...really? It probably won't be in 3D (you never know, Sony is a copycat) and look at the PSP to the DS. The PSP's graphics were a HUGE step above the DS's, but the DS actually has good games. The same can be said this time, except the PSP's graphics won't be that much better this time. 3D goes a long way. If the PSP 2 is not in 3D but has better graphics, the 3DS is still going to look better because of the 3D.

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