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261. Posted:

@Waltzy: I can understand my Nintendo systems breaking down from excessive wear-and-tear, but the Sony systems I own are simply defects in the design

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@lz: What all has happened to your PS3? :O

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lz20XX wrote:

@Waltzy: I can understand my Nintendo systems breaking down from excessive wear-and-tear, but the Sony systems I own are simply defects in the design

What do you mean? The PS2 original and PS3 slim are built like tanks.

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zezhyrule wrote:

@lz: What all has happened to your PS3? :O

Nothing too serious just the occasional "I don't like your TV today" or it freezes quite often

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lz20XX wrote:

zezhyrule wrote:

@lz: What all has happened to your PS3? :O

Nothing too serious just the occasional "I don't like your TV today" or it freezes quite often

So the whole

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All of my Sony platforms experienced several problems

was over exaggeration? :/

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266. Posted:

zezhyrule wrote:

lz20XX wrote:

zezhyrule wrote:

@lz: What all has happened to your PS3? :O

Nothing too serious just the occasional "I don't like your TV today" or it freezes quite often

So the whole

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All of my Sony platforms experienced several problems

was over exaggeration? :/

Nope, both of my Sony platforms experienced problems. Same for my PS2, but again nothing really serious. Overall it's just problems that are frustrating in general

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267. Posted:

I've seen many problems with all the companies consoles. My brother is actually on his third Wii at the moment, and all from manufacturer defects. I've experienced issues with Sony and Microsoft consoles myself as well. It happens, you play the console to death and eventually it will die. ;)

Back to the original post. NGP is a big hit on 3DS among older gamers. I know multiple guys in there mid to late 20s who had preorders on 3DS and have since cancelled them to preorder the NGP. I'm not saying that it will hurt 3DS and the system will fail or any of that nonsense, but I do think that 3DS was a draw back to Nintendo for many older gamers who in all the Wii casual nonsense that went on, moved on to other platforms, but the NGP announcement has once again turned them back to the other system once again.

For me, I'm buying both, but I'm much more excited about the 3DS than the NGP at the moment. I absolutely adore my DS(s), and Atlus is already fully on board the 3DS train, so bring it on! :D

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268. Posted:

The NGP looks simply awesome and will definitely offer a first-rate handheld gaming experience. My biggest problem is that I don't really care for most of Sony's games, which is a personal taste issue. As a piece of hardware, it is absolutely gorgeous and designed perfectly for playing games.

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269. Posted:

It seems that Sony/Nintendo systems have about the same amount of issues. Basically it seems if you buy any game system within a year after launch or so, you're playing Russian roulette with hardware failure. After that most of the kinks get worked out. Most of the Wii/PS3 complaints were with launch models. The DS Lite shoulder buttons seem perennially finicky though. Hopefully that issue is fixed with the 3DS. I'm sure both systems will generally be reliable (insert predictable, overworn stab at Microsoft here).

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270. Posted:

They'll probably be reliable unless they go down the same road as Microsoft with their huge 360 failure rate! LOL!! ( predictable, overworn stab at Microsoft inserted! :P)

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gatygun

271. Posted:

Btw some info about the NGP:

OP add it to your title if you want.

CPU: quad cored a9 vortex processor ( 4x cores ) each cloaked at 800mhz which equals 1,6ghz atom processors ( each core is 2x as fast as the iphone 4 )
GPU: 128vram ( dedicated )
GPU : Quad cored PowerVR SGX543MP4+ GPU ( means 4 cored overclocked from the standard 200mhz )
GPU : cloaked from 200-400mhz. ( 200mhz throughput 133million polygons, 4gb fillrate | 400mhz ~270million polygons, 8gb fillrate )
GPU: each gpu core has 4 pipelines = alot faster then the older 2x pipelined version used in the samsung "fastest mobile atm". which result in 16 pipelines in total.
GPU: supports 32 bit and 16 bit color paterns + filtering
GPU: has 4x FSAA filtering
Memory: 512MB fast DDR2 atleast ( Dev kits got 1GB ) so its between 512-1024mb
Battery: 4-7 hours confirmed. ( which probably equals 3DS battery time ) rumor atm, 2x 2700mah batteries combined.
Weight: Lesser then PSP Go.

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272. Posted:

Crap, that's almost as good as my computer...

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273. Posted:

All those specs sound great and all, but that is EXACTLY why this thing is gonna be priced sky high! It simply packs too much not to be. The ONLY way the NGP isn't gonna be priced beyond success is if Sony takes a big loss on every unit sold. However, I did read somewhere that Sony specifically said they wouldn't be losing money on each NGP sold so...I really don't see how this device is gonna be anything below 400 bucks.

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274. Posted:

bboy2970 wrote:

All those specs sound great and all, but that is EXACTLY why this thing is gonna be priced sky high! It simply packs too much not to be. The ONLY way the NGP isn't gonna be priced beyond success is if Sony takes a big loss on every unit sold. However, I did read somewhere that Sony specifically said they wouldn't be losing money on each NGP sold so...I really don't see how this device is gonna be anything below 400 bucks.

Didn't know that you worked at the R&D department of sony.
I wouldn't be suprised if this thing is costing exactly teh same if not 50 euro higher "only" then the 3DS.
From latest reports the iphone 4 only costs about 170 dollar to create for example. Which has more hardware going on then the 3DS already. Besides that, last reports noted that the 3DS got sold to shops for 171 dollar. this means that the 3DS probably costing on hardware level around the 100 euro ( i wouldn't be suprised if that actually is lower then that. Nintendo needs to make a huge profit it on it.

Even 3x more costing 3DS hardware could still be sold without a loss for under the 300 dollar/euro.

Sony can even throw in a loss, because handhelds isn't there main business. Therefor 300 dollar or even 250 dollar would make a hell lot sense to me?

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275. Posted:

@gatygun-
I'm pretty sure the iphone costs more than that to make, because not even Apple employees can get a discount on an iphone. If they were selling them at double the cost of making them, I think they'd allow their own members to get at least a little off the top. Besides, according to what you say the NGP has about 8x the processors of the iphone. Such technology would cost ALOT more than what the iphone has. I'm not saying 8x more, but maybe 4x or 5x. Add to that the fact that the NGP also has possibly up to a GB of memory, and 3G, and a MUCH larger screen, and all of the stuff that makes it a PSP. Even starting at $170, it would almost definitely be over $300, and I'm still pretty sure it's starting at closer to $300...Also, how can you be sure that the 3DS is so cheap to make? It does actually have new technology in it after all.

BTW, didn't know that you worked at the R&D department of Sony. I mean, how else would you know anything about their costs and pricing plans? It wouldn't be the first time Sony put out an outrageously expensive system after all.

I'm still expecting 2 models, 1 under $400 and 1 over. But, then again, I DON'T work at the R&D department at Sony.

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276. Posted:

I'm beginning to think this thread is a lost cause. It looks like it has been derailed to a point where it would be very unlikely to get on topic where people say things like "It looks good but I will still go for the 3DS" or "I think I like this better".

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277. Posted:

1) Guessing how much a console will cost before its announced is a bad idea. I personally think it'll be priced around $350 US, but that's a guess based more on market factors, than how much it costs Sony to make each console.

2) Even if it is expensive, that kind of fits in with Sony's strategy anyway. The NGP is a premium product, not a kids toy. Nothing about it suggests to me they're gunning for the same audience as Nintendogs + cats.

Which goes back to my earlier point - the NGP will probably not sell as well as the 3DS. But then again a) It's not a competitive device to the 3DS and b) Sony probably doesn't care.

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278. Posted:

@TrueWiiMaster I think Nintendo might use mostly recycled materials. Which may be the reason their handhelds are cheap. [Maybe]

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279. Posted:

gatygun wrote:

bboy2970 wrote:

All those specs sound great and all, but that is EXACTLY why this thing is gonna be priced sky high! It simply packs too much not to be. The ONLY way the NGP isn't gonna be priced beyond success is if Sony takes a big loss on every unit sold. However, I did read somewhere that Sony specifically said they wouldn't be losing money on each NGP sold so...I really don't see how this device is gonna be anything below 400 bucks.

Didn't know that you worked at the R&D department of sony.
I wouldn't be suprised if this thing is costing exactly teh same if not 50 euro higher "only" then the 3DS.
From latest reports the iphone 4 only costs about 170 dollar to create for example. Which has more hardware going on then the 3DS already. Besides that, last reports noted that the 3DS got sold to shops for 171 dollar. this means that the 3DS probably costing on hardware level around the 100 euro ( i wouldn't be suprised if that actually is lower then that. Nintendo needs to make a huge profit it on it.

Even 3x more costing 3DS hardware could still be sold without a loss for under the 300 dollar/euro.

Sony can even throw in a loss, because handhelds isn't there main business. Therefor 300 dollar or even 250 dollar would make a hell lot sense to me?

Quite wrong sir, I do not work in Sony's R&D department. I am only 18 so that would be kind of surprising if I did. My guess of 400 dollars is just that, a GUESS! I'm sure your statement would have slightly more validity if I had said, "STOP THE PRESSES!! the Sony NGP will absolutely, indisputably, no doubt, cost 400 dollars!! You heard it here first folks!" Unfortunately for your comment, I did not say that so I would appreciate you keeping sarcastic comments to yourself if you please. Thanks bud! :D

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280. Posted:

bboy2970 wrote:

gatygun wrote:

bboy2970 wrote:

All those specs sound great and all, but that is EXACTLY why this thing is gonna be priced sky high! It simply packs too much not to be. The ONLY way the NGP isn't gonna be priced beyond success is if Sony takes a big loss on every unit sold. However, I did read somewhere that Sony specifically said they wouldn't be losing money on each NGP sold so...I really don't see how this device is gonna be anything below 400 bucks.

Didn't know that you worked at the R&D department of sony.
I wouldn't be suprised if this thing is costing exactly teh same if not 50 euro higher "only" then the 3DS.
From latest reports the iphone 4 only costs about 170 dollar to create for example. Which has more hardware going on then the 3DS already. Besides that, last reports noted that the 3DS got sold to shops for 171 dollar. this means that the 3DS probably costing on hardware level around the 100 euro ( i wouldn't be suprised if that actually is lower then that. Nintendo needs to make a huge profit it on it.

Even 3x more costing 3DS hardware could still be sold without a loss for under the 300 dollar/euro.

Sony can even throw in a loss, because handhelds isn't there main business. Therefor 300 dollar or even 250 dollar would make a hell lot sense to me?

Quite wrong sir, I do not work in Sony's R&D department. I am only 18 so that would be kind of surprising if I did. My guess of 400 dollars is just that, a GUESS! I'm sure your statement would have slightly more validity if I had said, "STOP THE PRESSES!! the Sony NGP will absolutely, indisputably, no doubt, cost 400 dollars!! You heard it here first folks!" Unfortunately for your comment, I did not say that so I would appreciate you keeping sarcastic comments to yourself if you please. Thanks bud! :D

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