If this list includes all 3DS games Mutant Mudds just doesn't deserve to be on the list IMO. I loved it and still think there's plenty of better games on the system.
Oh, I'm not too familiar with them. If they put Mutant Mudds at the top just a few months ago then, yeah, it'll be there. I think Mutant Mudds is good, but not Top 5 good.
Yeah, while I like Mutant Mudds, I don't think it belongs anywhere near a top ten list that consists of both eShop & retail titles.
If it were an eShop only list (like their last one), I could understand it getting getting 10, 9, or maybe even 8, but the eShop just has so much better, IMO.
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I'm telling you guys because of the placement of Pushmo that Mutant Mudds, VVVVVV, and MSF almost have to be in the top ten. Just look at the other list! I don't think any of those games are system sellers and belong in a top ten with retail games this good. Maybe last year at this time yes but definitely not this year!!
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If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.
NWR loves to overrate themselves some Mutant Mudds (it made the top spot in a seperate, eShop only list they did months ago), so I predict it'll find itself onto the list, probably pretty high up.
Which I really don't understand. Is there some Mutant Mudds drug out there? Were they (lol generic comment) paid to praise it post-review (where it got a 9)? At times I feel things go past the subjective with what they say.
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If it makes it high up on this list, I'll be thoroughly frustrated... At a damn list.
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I was frustrated when they think that eshop games could compete with the ten best retail games!!
I don't understand the love with Mutant Mudds. It's slow boring and unfun for me. I don't think its a good game if it was released 25 years ago as an NES game then alone now. Yes it looks prettier but that's about it! At least with MSF there is actually action going on and looks so much better!
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Mutant Mudds was fun. It was short and sweet, and even though I had fun with it for only a few days, it was still a solid experience, that does great things with the 3D effect.
I thought it was fun as well and I loved the 3D effect, but it was nothing innovative at all, the graphical style was off-putting (RR259 can go in detail with that one) and the gameplay was a tad too slow for my personal tastes (That's subjective however).
What isn't subjective is that the DLC levels are COMPLETE F***IN GARBAGE. It's not even that they're difficult, I could beat them if I had the patience, it's that the level design is full of leaps of faith, cheap enemy placement and crappy spike position. Basically, it's a memorization game tied to a twitch platformer.
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What isn't subjective is that the DLC levels are COMPLETE F***IN GARBAGE. It's not even that they're difficult, I could beat them if I had the patience, it's that the level design is full of leaps of faith, cheap enemy placement and crappy spike position. Basically, it's a memorization game tied to a twitch platformer.
I didn't find the add-on levels that bad at all. I may be in the minority here, as I have seen a few people complain about them, but I liked that they were unique to the other levels of the game up to that point. I had a blast beating them.
A tip for those who think they're too difficult/cheap. You can actually land right next to a spike that's at the end of a platform. You have a few pixels of space to work with there.
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I was frustrated when they think that eshop games could compete with the ten best retail games!!
I don't understand the love with Mutant Mudds. It's slow boring and unfun for me. I don't think its a good game if it was released 25 years ago as an NES game then alone now. Yes it looks prettier but that's about it! At least with MSF there is actually action going on and looks so much better!
The art style is awesome. The platforming is the right mix of challenging and fun. Great usage of 3D. LOVE the special themed levels. Awesome music.
I just found Mutant Mudds forgettable, as others have said. Solid, but nothing special. I actually gave up on it about halfway through, simply because I felt it wasn't worth my time. Well, that and the Dark World levels were horrible in my opinion...but at least they were optional.
Not to mention Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D and Fire Emblem: Awakening.
Haven't played either game, so I can't speak for their quality compared to New Super Mario Brothers 2. New Super Mario Brothers 2 isn't innovative nor does it have to be to be one of the better games for the system. It also doesn't have to completely refresh a graphical style to be one of the better games of the system. Level design is repetitive, but no where near as repetitive as some of the entries being suggested for this list such as Kid Icarus Uprising. Also how is Super Mario Galaxy 2 a good upgrade, when it doesn't even do anything new, where as New Super Mario Brothers 2 at least becomes the first Super Mario game with a heavy focus on coin collection and coin themes?
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@I-U Haha no. KIU is NOWHERE NEAR as repetitive as NSMB2 is. NSMB2 has coin collection, sure , but that's the stupidest theme in a Mario game ever.
We must be playing two different versions of the same games. The extent of Uprising's gameplay is shooting and dodging, while traveling along linear routes or, while in air, an on-rails route. I think Chapter 19 and Chapter 25 are the only chapters to break out of that game's constant air/ground/boss formula. New Super Mario Brothers 2 on the other hand encourages exploration to acquire the best coin totals for levels, can leap into the shooter genre with its Flower upgrades while maintaining its platforming genre focus and can become a bit of a puzzler, though lite, with its Star Coin collection and reaching alternative exits/worlds. I would argue Uprising as the most repetitive of Nintendo's offerings on the 3DS.
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@I-U Haha no. KIU is NOWHERE NEAR as repetitive as NSMB2 is. NSMB2 has coin collection, sure , but that's the stupidest theme in a Mario game ever.
We must be playing two different versions of the same games. The extent of Uprising's gameplay is shooting and dodging, while traveling along linear routes or, while in air, an on-rails route.
...you need more than that? You're saying that as if that alone doesn't make for a very complex game...
I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't like Kid Icarus: Uprising any more than you do, but a lack of complexity is far from any of the multitude of issues I've had with the game.
@I-U Haha no. KIU is NOWHERE NEAR as repetitive as NSMB2 is. NSMB2 has coin collection, sure , but that's the stupidest theme in a Mario game ever.
We must be playing two different versions of the same games. The extent of Uprising's gameplay is shooting and dodging, while traveling along linear routes or, while in air, an on-rails route.
...you need more than that? You're saying that as if that alone doesn't make for a very complex game...
Not to mention the numerous ways you can tackle those levels depending on the difficulty and weapon choice. All you do in Mario is run and jump and shoot fire. Isn't that the same basic thing over and over again???
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Uprising's repetition is only one of many issues I have with the game, and yeah the game needed more than just that. Star Fox 64 is a bit more comparable to Uprising and that has certain objectives that can be done to access different routes. Uprising is straight through without much to mix it up.
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