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Topic: Nintendo Found Guilty of Patent Infringement for 3DS Technology?

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21. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 00:35 GMT

I wonder if the 30.2 mil payout was from sales from launch to the start of the trial, or until now.

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22. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 00:36 GMT

To Nintendo, $30 million is like a thousand to you and me.

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23. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 00:41 GMT

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Respectfully, you do not understand how patent law and infringement violations are judged. They are far more complex and convoluted than the bullet points you mentioned.

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This is not going to hurt Ninty very much at all. They'll pay out the sum (which may get lowered either by the court, or via appeal), and possibly have to pay this dude a tiny fraction for units sold (or they may not; i don't know what the judgment specifically said as far as damages — it may be that the lump sum is all is/will be awarded).

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24. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 00:41 GMT

Nintendo needs better lawyers.

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25. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 00:43 GMT

Bankai wrote:

Nintendo is so innovative that it steals patents.

Sorry, that was just too easy :P

If anything, they did it on accident.

Anyways, I would say the only part of the patent that was considered infringment would be the 'glasses free 3D' part. They really don't use the same technology exactly, but possibly an alternative version.
It's also interesting that a Japanese case was in the U.S., unless his attorney is American, and also that the former employee is no longer with Sony. So apparently the rights weren't Sony's, and Sony actually lost way more in the long run than Nintendo's 30 million, because Nintendo is actually using the glasses free 3D and making profit in that market.

Edited on Thu 14th March, 2013 @ 00:46 by SCAR392

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26. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 00:43 GMT

Pssh, Nintendo will make this back with just smash bros 4. There is so much hype for their games right now that will lead to an sales increase of all of it's current items on sale. This is a very small loss for them and won't affect them much.

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27. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 00:49 GMT

Burning_Spear wrote:

To Nintendo, $30 million is like a thousand to you and me.

Even less than that.

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28. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 00:56 GMT

Huh.

Well the obvious, obvious, freaking obvious thing I got out of this is that this buries the "Sony copies Nintendo" complaints for a while. Which is good for everyone.

Edited on Thu 14th March, 2013 @ 00:57 by kkslider5552000

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29. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:03 GMT

SCAR392 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

Nintendo is so innovative that it steals patents.

Sorry, that was just too easy :P

If anything, they did it on accident.

Anyways, I would say the only part of the patent that was considered infringment would be the 'glasses free 3D' part. They really don't use the same technology exactly, but possibly an alternative version.
It's also interesting that a Japanese case was in the U.S., unless his attorney is American, and also that the former employee is no longer with Sony. So apparently the rights weren't Sony's, and Sony actually lost way more in the long run than Nintendo's 30 million, because Nintendo is actually using the glasses free 3D and making profit in that market.

Even if I was Serious, dude patent infringement doesn't happen by accident. R & D units have researchers that check patents.

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30. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:09 GMT

@Bankai
Then is it no possible fault of the jury? There is a possibility that the judge and jury are still wrong. There have been death penalties that have gone through, and they find more evidence in the case that the one sentenced to death was actually innocent.

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31. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:13 GMT

@SCAR392: That's what the appeals process is for. Shpy is right, they'll probably appeal to have the sum lowered, they'll pay the guy, and that'll be that. Relax. :3

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32. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:16 GMT

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@SCAR392: That's what the appeals process is for. Shpy is right, they'll probably appeal to have the sum lowered, they'll pay the guy, and that'll be that. Relax. :3

I understand. I completely agree that Nintendo should pay the guy, but only if it is true.

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33. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:18 GMT

SCAR392 wrote:

@Bankai
Then is it no possible fault of the jury? There is a possibility that the judge and jury are still wrong. There have been death penalties that have gone through, and they find more evidence in the case that the one sentenced to death was actually innocent.

Oh it might be a mistake by the judge, but Nintendo, if guilty, did not 'accidently' steal this dude's idea.

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34. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:18 GMT

I agree with everyone here in that this is nothing for Nintendo. Hopefully they will appeal this and counter sue the person.

Edited on Thu 14th March, 2013 @ 01:21 by theblackdragon

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35. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:21 GMT

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Nintendo needs better lawyers.

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36. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:23 GMT

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Void wrote:

Nintendo needs better lawyers.

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37. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:24 GMT

@Tasuki: You can't counter-sue if you're ruled to be guilty. I know most of us here love Nintendo and want very much for them to be always in the right, but if something was indeed accidentally infringed upon, I'd rather they make it right with the patent-holder than waffle through a bunch of court BS until they're pinned to a wall and forced to pay out. it's the right thing to do.

Edited on Thu 14th March, 2013 @ 01:24 by theblackdragon

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38. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:27 GMT

CM30 wrote:

I wonder how this will affect the console's future. They've just lost a court case against them by ex Sony engineer Seijiro Tomita, who took them to court for infringing his glasses free 3D technology. The jury ordered them to pay out about 30 million dollars too.

http://nintendo3dsdaily.com/nintendo3dsnews/nintendo-found-gu...

http://mynintendonews.com/2013/03/13/nintendo-to-pay-former-s...

So yeah, wonder how this might affect things in future? Might it make Nintendo hesitant of glasses free 3D for a while?

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39. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:28 GMT

Another question is if he worked for Sony why did he have a meeting with Nintendo? WOuldnt that be consider conflict of interest?

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40. Posted: Thu 14th Mar 2013 01:28 GMT

Guess who won $30 million dollars today~
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