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Topic: New to Pokemon which to buy ? Ruby/Sapphire or X/Y

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Blast

Actually.... Go ahead and play Pokemon Platinum. Try to find that game. Its a Nintendo DS game and the 3DS can actually play DS games. Prepare to be amazed.

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PKPro4Lyfe

Blast wrote:

Actually.... Go ahead and play Pokemon Platinum. Try to find that game. Its a Nintendo DS game and the 3DS can actually play DS games. Prepare to be amazed.

Actually, yeah, I completely agree. Platinum is where it's at!! Distortion World.....almost enough said. Wait-there's also ....wait for it....battle frontier!!!!!!!!! AN awesome villian, Cyrus is my favorite. Great story on that note. Some past gen pokemon added before game. Time, space, and distortion!?!? So cool and trippy! yeah..

But back to the thread topic (we can make a platinum based one later).....I haven't played much of ORAS, but it's not a perfect game like that one dude kept saying (or even that much improved). And X/Y did kind of suck honestly. The arguments are in here already i'm sure, but a combination of no difficulty, lack of post game, and annoying/uninteresting characters are some of the main things I had a problem with.

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CapeSmash

Let's be real here folks: Gen 5 is the best generation. It made so many great improvements to the series (the gameplay, graphics, story, and many other things). It felt like a reboot to me. I haven't played much of ORAS (but I do see my brother play it a lot), but from what I've seen, it's making a lot of cool changes to the series as well.

Also, I think people give Gen 4 way too much credit. It was slow, boring, the music was boring, the Pokèmon designs make me want to vomit, the graphics look like a GBA game, and other things.

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N64: Captain Falcon
Melee: Mario
Brawl: Sonic
Project M: Link
Smash 3DS: Captain Falcon
Smash Wii U: Ganondorf

PKPro4Lyfe

Gen 5 was decent. What notable improvements? Off the top of my head, I can just think of graphics, cool ending where you get to fight legendary, N (cool character) , and the main villain. Oh yeah, constantly animated sprites....i'm forgetting a lot. I liked black 2/white 2 because it was a direct continuation also.

...THe pokemon designs in gen4 made you want to vomit? They seemed fine to me. I liked the music, i'll say that about just about every main series pokemon game though. The graphics were fine to me too and they were at least MUCH better than 1&2. How does one not like a pokemon game because of the graphics though? That is the question...

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-I swear by the oath of Cyrus!

DefHalan

CapeSmash wrote:

Let's be real here folks: Gen 5 is the best generation. It made so many great improvements to the series (the gameplay, graphics, story, and many other things). It felt like a reboot to me. I haven't played much of ORAS (but I do see my brother play it a lot), but from what I've seen, it's making a lot of cool changes to the series as well.

Also, I think people give Gen 4 way too much credit. It was slow, boring, the music was boring, the Pokèmon designs make me want to vomit, the graphics look like a GBA game, and other things.

I disagree, I think Gen 5 was a giant misstep. It did a lot of things poorly and the story just couldn't hold my attention. Pokemon stories don't normally hold my attention but they are normally simple enough that I don't need to fully pay attention. Gen 5 had some good Pokemon and the anime was pretty good, but gameplay wise it fell short in my opinion. Trying to play Gen 5 the way I normally play Pokemon was near impossible. I barely beat the Pokemon League, and I don't remember ever beating it. [spoilers] I remember fighting some of the Elite Four, then some story thing happened (like I said I couldn't follow the story) and I fought the legendary, I think I caught it and that was all I remember. [/spoilers] My brother, who now owns all my old Pokemon games, booted up the game and told me it said I did complete the Pokemon League. Just so much of that game was forgettable for me. Gen 5 to me is the worst Gen there has been in Pokemon

EDIT: Also wanted to add that I hated the way Exp was handled in the game. I remember starting a new journey and getting caught up in the hype and thinking Gen 5 was the best but it started to wear thin really fast for me. Just overall a bad experience, Gen 6 was such a breath of fresh air for me.

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People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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PKPro4Lyfe

DefHalan wrote:

CapeSmash wrote:

Let's be real here folks: Gen 5 is the best generation. It made so many great improvements to the series (the gameplay, graphics, story, and many other things). It felt like a reboot to me. I haven't played much of ORAS (but I do see my brother play it a lot), but from what I've seen, it's making a lot of cool changes to the series as well.

Also, I think people give Gen 4 way too much credit. It was slow, boring, the music was boring, the Pokèmon designs make me want to vomit, the graphics look like a GBA game, and other things.

I disagree, I think Gen 5 was a giant misstep. It did a lot of things poorly and the story just couldn't hold my attention. Pokemon stories don't normally hold my attention but they are normally simple enough that I don't need to fully pay attention. Gen 5 had some good Pokemon and the anime was pretty good, but gameplay wise it fell short in my opinion. Trying to play Gen 5 the way I normally play Pokemon was near impossible. I barely beat the Pokemon League, and I don't remember ever beating it. [spoilers] I remember fighting some of the Elite Four, then some story thing happened (like I said I couldn't follow the story) and I fought the legendary, I think I caught it and that was all I remember. [/spoilers] My brother, who now owns all my old Pokemon games, booted up the game and told me it said I did complete the Pokemon League. Just so much of that game was forgettable for me. Gen 5 to me is the worst Gen there has been in Pokemon

^^ (with the exception of X/Y) coughcoughimeanORAS. No trolling done here.

Edited on by PKPro4Lyfe

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-I swear by the oath of Cyrus!

CapeSmash

DefHalan wrote:

CapeSmash wrote:

Let's be real here folks: Gen 5 is the best generation. It made so many great improvements to the series (the gameplay, graphics, story, and many other things). It felt like a reboot to me. I haven't played much of ORAS (but I do see my brother play it a lot), but from what I've seen, it's making a lot of cool changes to the series as well.

Also, I think people give Gen 4 way too much credit. It was slow, boring, the music was boring, the Pokèmon designs make me want to vomit, the graphics look like a GBA game, and other things.

I disagree, I think Gen 5 was a giant misstep. It did a lot of things poorly and the story just couldn't hold my attention. Pokemon stories don't normally hold my attention but they are normally simple enough that I don't need to fully pay attention. Gen 5 had some good Pokemon and the anime was pretty good, but gameplay wise it fell short in my opinion. Trying to play Gen 5 the way I normally play Pokemon was near impossible. I barely beat the Pokemon League, and I don't remember ever beating it. [spoilers] I remember fighting some of the Elite Four, then some story thing happened (like I said I couldn't follow the story) and I fought the legendary, I think I caught it and that was all I remember. [/spoilers] My brother, who now owns all my old Pokemon games, booted up the game and told me it said I did complete the Pokemon League. Just so much of that game was forgettable for me. Gen 5 to me is the worst Gen there has been in Pokemon

Triple battles, rotation battles, UNLIMITED TMs, you can find doctors in caves that can heal your Pokèmon (which means you don't have to use an escape rope so you can go find a Pokèmon center to heal your Pokèmon), Pokèmon centers and Pokè marts are now just one building, and other stuff. I know there's more, but it's been a long time since I last played the game, so that's all I can remember from the top of my head.

@PKPro4Lyfe I just didn't like the way they were designed, and a lot of them were forgettable. I don't hate the music, but it just gives the game a boring atmosphere due to the way the instruments sound IMO. Also, I don't like Gen 4 because of the graphics, it's just that they look very GBA.

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N64: Captain Falcon
Melee: Mario
Brawl: Sonic
Project M: Link
Smash 3DS: Captain Falcon
Smash Wii U: Ganondorf

Bolt_Strike

CapeSmash wrote:

Let's be real here folks: Gen 5 is the best generation. It made so many great improvements to the series (the gameplay, graphics, story, and many other things). It felt like a reboot to me. I haven't played much of ORAS (but I do see my brother play it a lot), but from what I've seen, it's making a lot of cool changes to the series as well.

The only part of the formula that really needed rebooting was the gym/Pokemon League/evil team structure, aside from what 5th gen did with the storyline everything it did was the very definition of fixing what wasn't broken.

CapeSmash wrote:

Also, I think people give Gen 4 way too much credit. It was slow, boring, the music was boring, the Pokèmon designs make me want to vomit, the graphics look like a GBA game, and other things.

On the flip side though: the region was large and appropriately open-ended for a Pokemon game, and the games had tons of extra features and things to do. It's unparalleled when it comes to game content. And Platinum in particular is near perfect, it's strong in all of the areas that matter the most (region design, regional dex, storyline, extra content).

CapeSmash wrote:

Triple battles, rotation battles, UNLIMITED TMs, you can find doctors in caves that can heal your Pokèmon (which means you don't have to use an escape rope so you can go find a Pokèmon center to heal your Pokèmon), Pokèmon centers and Pokè marts are now just one building, and other stuff. I know there's more, but it's been a long time since I last played the game, so that's all I can remember from the top of my head.

Thing is that none of these things are really new, major things. Look at some of the things that other generations have added, like breeding or abilities. Not only do they improve the gameplay, but they add new, game changing things to the gameplay. Nothing that 5th gen added really do that. The new battle styles were optional gimmicks, and everything else was more a refinement than a new feature. It didn't add much to the gameplay and it removed a lot more.

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Bolt_Strike

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PKPro4Lyfe

CapeSmash wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

CapeSmash wrote:

Let's be real here folks: Gen 5 is the best generation. It made so many great improvements to the series (the gameplay, graphics, story, and many other things). It felt like a reboot to me. I haven't played much of ORAS (but I do see my brother play it a lot), but from what I've seen, it's making a lot of cool changes to the series as well.

Also, I think people give Gen 4 way too much credit. It was slow, boring, the music was boring, the Pokèmon designs make me want to vomit, the graphics look like a GBA game, and other things.

I disagree, I think Gen 5 was a giant misstep. It did a lot of things poorly and the story just couldn't hold my attention. Pokemon stories don't normally hold my attention but they are normally simple enough that I don't need to fully pay attention. Gen 5 had some good Pokemon and the anime was pretty good, but gameplay wise it fell short in my opinion. Trying to play Gen 5 the way I normally play Pokemon was near impossible. I barely beat the Pokemon League, and I don't remember ever beating it. [spoilers] I remember fighting some of the Elite Four, then some story thing happened (like I said I couldn't follow the story) and I fought the legendary, I think I caught it and that was all I remember. [/spoilers] My brother, who now owns all my old Pokemon games, booted up the game and told me it said I did complete the Pokemon League. Just so much of that game was forgettable for me. Gen 5 to me is the worst Gen there has been in Pokemon

Triple battles, rotation battles, UNLIMITED TMs, you can find doctors in caves that can heal your Pokèmon (which means you don't have to use an escape rope so you can go find a Pokèmon center to heal your Pokèmon), Pokèmon centers and Pokè marts are now just one building, and other stuff. I know there's more, but it's been a long time since I last played the game, so that's all I can remember from the top of my head.

@PKPro4Lyfe I just didn't like the way they were designed, and a lot of them were forgettable. I don't hate the music, but it just gives the game a boring atmosphere due to the way the instruments sound IMO. Also, I don't like Gen 4 because of the graphics, it's just that they look very GBA.

I rarely ever did triple/rotation battles outside a few trainers throughout the game that you are required to. unlimited TMs was cool for post game more than anything, but alas, not much for postgame content compared to 4. The trainers that heal your pokemon are very few, and there have always been at least a few trainers throughout a game that heal your pokemon that aren't nursejoy. pokemon centers and mart being the same thing...yeah that's cool, cause it saves you like 10 seconds or whatever in each town.

Yeah there is some pretty chill music...? There was also plenty of nonboring music. GBA graphics work for me, as long as the game is good.

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I love pokemans and zeldas. I have pro skillz and an EV trained team that can beat yours.
-I swear by the oath of Cyrus!

PKPro4Lyfe

Bolt_Strike wrote:

CapeSmash wrote:

Let's be real here folks: Gen 5 is the best generation. It made so many great improvements to the series (the gameplay, graphics, story, and many other things). It felt like a reboot to me. I haven't played much of ORAS (but I do see my brother play it a lot), but from what I've seen, it's making a lot of cool changes to the series as well.

The only part of the formula that really needed rebooting was the gym/Pokemon League/evil team structure, aside from what 5th gen did with the storyline everything it did was the very definition of fixing what wasn't broken.

CapeSmash wrote:

Also, I think people give Gen 4 way too much credit. It was slow, boring, the music was boring, the Pokèmon designs make me want to vomit, the graphics look like a GBA game, and other things.

On the flip side though: the region was large and appropriately open-ended for a Pokemon game, and the games had tons of extra features and things to do. It's unparalleled when it comes to game content. And Platinum in particular is near perfect, it's strong in all of the areas that matter the most (region design, regional dex, storyline, extra content).

Another reason we need a 'Discussion of Why Platinum is Awesome' Forum

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