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CowLaunch

601. Posted:

SuperSonic95 wrote:

CowLaunch wrote:

Rizsparky wrote:

SPOILER...

The reward for 1 mil coins is a flashy new title screen...... Yes.. total ****... video below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dze00JTqkVU&feature=player...

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Oh goodness. That just sums up for me how lazy Nintendo have been with this game.

Take another series of 4 Mario platformers, between SMB1- SMW, and you see a far greater divergence in gameplay and graphical styles. And then there's the new directions Nintendo took with the Super Mario Land and World series, namely Wario land and Yoshi's Island. I can't imagine them taking that kind of risk now. Compare that to the NSMB series, and it starts to look quite pathetic.

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The graphics changed because of, "the progress of technology," to quote Nintendo. The REAL Mario 2 was a harder version of the original with the poison mushroom added. The US one was a reskinned version of Doki Doki Panic. Mario 3 had improved graphics, some new power ups and a map. Mario World had more improved graphics because of, "the progress of technology," retained the map, replaced raccoon/tanooki suit with a cape, used a few new enemies, added Yoshi (which NSMB Wii did), and maybe had some other new power ups that I forgot to mention.
As for the NSMB series, NSMB Wii added Yoshi, improved graphics, co-op, and new power ups. NSMB 2 is adding a coin goal, fresh new ways to earn lots of coins, coin rush mode, return of old power ups, new power ups, and new special levels like the dash level. NSMB U has new power ups, improved graphics, various types of baby Yoshi's, the use of the gamepad as an assist tool, a new art style with the backgrounds and platforms, 5 player co-op, Miiverse integration, and the ability to play as your Mii.

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I would accept that these older games are different in some respects due to progress in technology, but the 3DS is more powerful than the DS, and NSMB2 doesn't look that much better than the first, if at all. Also, the technology of the SNES and the Game Boy hadn't changed after SML2 and SMW, but Wario Land and Yoshi's Island have very different styles of gameplay.

As for the first 2 REAL SMB, I was quite content with the first 2 NSMB, though being quite similar. This however, the third in the series, is too far. SMB3 gameplay is very different from SMB1, and though not as radically different from it's predecessor, SMW is still distinct from SMB3.

The return of old power ups and yoshi in the various installments of the NSMB series isn't innovation. Super Mario 3D Land brought back the Tanooki suit for a 3D environment, and I thought that was worthwhile, but in NSMB2 it looks tacked on.

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but the great deal of innovations you've listed come across to me as superficial and gimmicky, and cannot take away from the fact that NSMB1&2 were almost the same game, and that the next 2 look awfully similar as well.

Mario has been collecting coins forever, they've increased the scale of that, and also forgotten that they ever created Wario.

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JohnPhilipSousa

602. Posted:

Leaves forum to play Super Mario 3D Land.

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603. Posted:

It's honestly best to think of this game as a way to make Nintendo immediately successful at selling retail games on the eShop.

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JohnPhilipSousa

604. Posted:

CowLaunch wrote:

SuperSonic95 wrote:

CowLaunch wrote:

Rizsparky wrote:

SPOILER...

The reward for 1 mil coins is a flashy new title screen...... Yes.. total ****... video below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dze00JTqkVU&feature=player...

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Oh goodness. That just sums up for me how lazy Nintendo have been with this game.

Take another series of 4 Mario platformers, between SMB1- SMW, and you see a far greater divergence in gameplay and graphical styles. And then there's the new directions Nintendo took with the Super Mario Land and World series, namely Wario land and Yoshi's Island. I can't imagine them taking that kind of risk now. Compare that to the NSMB series, and it starts to look quite pathetic.

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The graphics changed because of, "the progress of technology," to quote Nintendo. The REAL Mario 2 was a harder version of the original with the poison mushroom added. The US one was a reskinned version of Doki Doki Panic. Mario 3 had improved graphics, some new power ups and a map. Mario World had more improved graphics because of, "the progress of technology," retained the map, replaced raccoon/tanooki suit with a cape, used a few new enemies, added Yoshi (which NSMB Wii did), and maybe had some other new power ups that I forgot to mention.
As for the NSMB series, NSMB Wii added Yoshi, improved graphics, co-op, and new power ups. NSMB 2 is adding a coin goal, fresh new ways to earn lots of coins, coin rush mode, return of old power ups, new power ups, and new special levels like the dash level. NSMB U has new power ups, improved graphics, various types of baby Yoshi's, the use of the gamepad as an assist tool, a new art style with the backgrounds and platforms, 5 player co-op, Miiverse integration, and the ability to play as your Mii.

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I would accept that these older games are different in some respects due to progress in technology, but the 3DS is more powerful than the DS, and NSMB2 doesn't look that much better than the first, if at all. Also, the technology of the SNES and the Game Boy hadn't changed after SML2 and SMW, but Wario Land and Yoshi's Island have very different styles of gameplay.

As for the first 2 REAL SMB, I was quite content with the first 2 NSMB, though being quite similar. This however, the third in the series, is too far. SMB3 gameplay is very different from SMB1, and though not as radically different form it's predecessor, SMW is still distinct from SMB3.

The return of old power ups and yoshi in the various installments of the NSMB series isn't innovation. Super Mario 3D Land brought back the Tanooki suit for a 3D environment, and I thought that was worthwhile, but in NSMB2 it looks tacked on.

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but the great deal of innovations you've listed come across to me as superficial and gimmicky, and cannot take away from the fact that NSMB1&2 were almost the same game, and that the next 2 look awfully similar as well.

Mario has been collecting coins forever, they've increased the scale of that, and also forgotten that they ever created Wario.

I was treating NSMB as it's own series and meant the things added on that weren't in NSMB DS.

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605. Posted:

SuperSonic95 wrote:

Leaves forum to play Super Mario 3D Land.

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KaiserGX

606. Posted:

Enjoy

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BenAV

607. Posted:

I'm happy with what they've added to this game, so I shall buy it and enjoy it.
If others aren't happy with it then no problem, they can spend their money and time on something else.

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KaiserGX

608. Posted:

I traded all my Wii games in for 3DS and WiiU stuff and I really loved NSMBW didn't want to trade it in so this is kinda replacing it.

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TheDreamingHawk

609. Posted:

I'm kinda sad how a few of my friends are going the idiot route and are skipping on the game for the goal prize alone. It's still mario and still fun, i just hope it's not easy and the DLC will be cool.

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610. Posted:

I think I might have to stick with 3D Land till Paper Mario comes out.

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Rizsparky

611. Posted:

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

I'm kinda sad how a few of my friends are going the idiot route and are skipping on the game for the goal prize alone. It's still mario and still fun, i just hope it's not easy and the DLC will be cool.

Jokes on you, they have already made all the DLC, Nintendo used the goal prize as a tool to get people to preorder, lol@them when they found out what the prize was.

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KaiserGX

612. Posted:

Wtf...

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Lunapplebloom

613. Posted:

I have seen many varied and mixed opinions on this title, perhaps the most mixed for any Mario title to date. I will still get it of course, but I am afraid that this one may not sell as they would want it to, though I shall probably be wrong. Considering the sales in Japan that it has so far.

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19Robb92

614. Posted:

From what I've seen it looks quite underwhelming. Reused boss fights from New Super Mario Bros Wii and the level design doesn't look like it's offering anything new.

I'll buy it as a download since I love 2D platformers. But I feel as if they could have at least changed up some of the stuff. New Super Mario Bros. U looks loads better than this IMO from what I've seen.

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Rizsparky

615. Posted:

19Robb92 wrote:

From what I've seen it looks quite underwhelming. Reused boss fights from New Super Mario Bros Wii and the level design doesn't look like it's offering anything new.

I'll buy it as a download since I love 2D platformers. But I feel as if they could have at least changed up some of the stuff. New Super Mario Bros. U looks loads better than this IMO from what I've seen.

The least they could have included is Yoshi....

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KaiserGX

616. Posted:

Idk Raccoon Tail Marion while on a Yoshi... that just... looks weird.

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617. Posted:

Rizsparky wrote:

The least they could have included is Yoshi....

Sure, that would be a nice addition.

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Idk Raccoon Tail Marion while on a Yoshi... that just... looks weird.

They should have went with the cape from world instead of the raccoon anyway IMO.

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TheDreamingHawk

618. Posted:

Rizsparky wrote:

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

I'm kinda sad how a few of my friends are going the idiot route and are skipping on the game for the goal prize alone. It's still mario and still fun, i just hope it's not easy and the DLC will be cool.

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Jokes on you, they have already made all the DLC, Nintendo used the goal prize as a tool to get people to preorder, lol@them when they found out what the prize was.

No they haven't. Japan hasn't gotten any yet.

At least this helps boost DL sales, considering how different it is compared to other mario games.

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Rizsparky

619. Posted:

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Idk Raccoon Tail Marion while on a Yoshi... that just... looks weird.

There was a caped mario with yoshi in SML and NSMB U will have squirrel suit mario with Yoshi...

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TheDreamingHawk

620. Posted:

That's a baby yoshi. You can't ride them.

Plus World was terrible anyway... The jumping controls were just too different compared to the A and B Inputs I'm used to. Super mario Advance 2 is THE BEST version that makes it amazing in my opinion.

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