Topic: New 3DS Incompatibilities (Pokemon and Mega Man)

EDIT: With a wider speculation, it may be conclusive to say that these games would only have certain features unusable, rather than the full games being unplayable. For instance, some of the Pokemon games used the GBA slot for Migration and getting "special" Pokemon in certain areas. This is nothing new, as there was no GBA slot in the DSi or 3DS models. The reason why it confused others is because this page was not heard of before, and therefore, some of us thought that this was new news provided almost exclusively for the "New 3DS." Thank you for the clarification.

Original Post: I'm not sure if many persons realized this, but there is a page that lists the incompatibilities of DS games that won't work on the New 3DS:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/series/dsi/feature/index.html

Although there isn't much interesting here, it is to be noted that in this list, all the DS Rockman (Mega Man) games will not be compatible with the New 3DS! Also read here, all Pokemon DS games released from Heartgold / Soulsilver and prior will not be supported. There is nothing stated about Black / White or Black 2 / White 2, so those games should be safe. What do you guys think? Could you handle the inability to play the Mega Man and Gen 4 Pokemon on your new New 3DS? At least the Gen 4 games were never initially compatible with Pokemon Bank.

As much as I like my 3DS, the older DS Pokemon games look terrible in it anyway. There's a reason I keep my DSi around.

I wonder what causes these issues though. Why wouldn't they be compatible?

That's fine with me if a bit strange. At least gen 5 will work. It would have been the biggest joke of a generation if it didn't.

Whoa whoa whoa? Mega Man ZX is incompatible? Why the heck would that be the case?!

I think maybe the 2nd section is downright can't play and 3rd section could that the game is playable but some things are inaccessible. This thinking is because Guitar Hero On Tour is in the 2nd section which can't be played because of the guitar grip.

Well, those Pokemon games and the first ZX all have features that involve the GBA slot on the DS, I wonder if that's coincidental?

Ohhh so that's not as bad then. As those incompatibilities already exist on the regular 3DS

Not for the Pokemon games. I just played with Heartgold on my 3DS XL last November. I'm not sure about the Mega Man games, though. I haven't played with them in years.

It has to do with interactions with the GBA cart slot. The earlier Poke games probably had transfer abilities with earlier GBA Poke games. So that won't work. It also already doesn't work on any 3DS currently existing.

The game will still play just fine.

Bleach DS doesn't work on it either.
Or Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Or Pheonix Wright
Or Feel the Magic
Or Rub Rabbits
Or Puyo Puyo
Or Harvest Moon
Or Space invaders Extreme 1 and 2
Or Advanced Wars: Dual Strike
Or The Pokemon Spinoffs
Or Rocket Slime
Or Lunar Knights
Or Super Robot Wars
Or Final Fantasy Tactics A2
Or Knights in the knightmare

But nope, I guess none of that matters when the worst Pokemon and Mega Man games in the history of their respective franchises can't be played! Oh Boo Hoo!!

BTW, the Pokemon games are on the same list as a bunch of other games I know don't have GBA interaction. I don't think that's the issue here.

well glad i got a ds lite a dsi and my regular 3ds (yea i plan on keeping that even if its starting to wear out a bit) on standby xP

What? Why would only a select number of DS games not work on this thing? It makes no sense.

They could have removed some component that was actual hardware and be emulating it (But not want to bother doing it properly).

Doesn't bother me I cannot put up with the scaling on any 3DS model.

Or they could be blocking the flashcard method using those specific games.

I think Megman ZX Advent is quite good (I don't like Metroidvania most of the time but I quite like that).

Not that it matters all my DS stuff is used with a Dsi XL. (Wouldn't bother me if they removed all DS support).

I don't think I have anything on the list, and even if I did I still have my DS Lite and DSi, so whatever.

Don't have to be sassy about it. After all, Heartgold and SoulSilver are among my favorite pokemon games.

Guys. Come on. We've already figured out that this isn't a list of games that won't play. It's a list of games that won't work right because of the change in location of the game card slot (so add on peripheral won't work), and games with special interactions with the DS's GBA slot that will otherwise function fine.

Everyone calm the hell down.

Remember this is a Japanese compatibility list. So some Easter egg based interaction might not exist in North America.

I actually didn't think Knights in the Nightmare had interaction. But it turns out there is an Easter egg if you put a copy of Yggdra Union (which did come out in North America) in the GBA slot you get an Easter egg during tutorials.

The Phoenix Wright series was originally on GBA in Japan (only DS in North America) so it's not surprising if a latter Phoenix Wright title has interactivity in Japan only.

So relax. These compatibility issues ALL READY EXIST ON CURRENT 3DS HARDWARE. It's not new at all.

Ooh so they won't be completely unplayable?

I guess that just means some content or hardware-related interactions (like reading data from the GBA slot) will be inaccessible on these games. Same as with the current models.

I'd rather play my DS games on DS rather than a 3DS.