Topic: NES Remix Quality

I like having big books and nice plastic cases it is more better and more collectible

I am not against collecting. I am against thinking the case is more valuable than the game.

Pffffhahahaha

I always thought the holes in the plastic cover boxes were there to cut down on cost and to be more environmentally friendly. (But probably more cost than anything).

Some games have no instruction manuals and instead have a digital one.

Some games have a small manual w/ black and white images and text.

And some games still have full color booklets with lots of pages and in multiple languages (ie: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U)

so complaining about the drop in quality for cases or manuals (packaging in general) mathematically equals to think they are more valuable than the game?!
when you go to the restaurant and you complain about a dirty fork, does the chef accuse you of thinking silverware is more valuable than the food?!
Sorry guys but it's nearly impossible to debate if you keep ignoring the point.
It's a very legit complaint: price has gone up, manufacturing quality has gone down - I hate to say something is a fact, but this is a fact.

they need to make great cases and manuals and charge like 5 to 10 dollars more for it

It is comments like this that create the image that you care more about the case than you do the game. Prices have gone up because Game Development is more expensive. They lowered case "quality" to try to save money for game development. If your game as a budget of $XXX and cases cost $X out of your budget you are going to try to lower that to put more of your budget towards making the product consumers should be caring about. The fact that prices have gone up shouldn't mean that the quality of the case something is delivered to you should go up too. If you had to spend $20 on a steak dinner brought to you on fine china or twice as much food on a paper plate for the same price (or even slightly more, like $25 or $30) which would you choose?

Heck I am paying the same price as you are and not getting a case. I buy all my games digitally. I am fine with that as I know that means more of my money is going to the developers and not the case/booklet manufactures.

Getting a dirty fork in a restaurant would be more comparable to getting a broken/scratched/filled with stickers game case with your brand new game.

Price has gone up to match the higher production costs - fine. But the videogame market has decupled too, which means publishers/developers are making more money. The increase of money generated from the skyrocketing market should have paid for the increment of production costs. It's not enough? Fine, we're paying 10 bucks more.

Ten years ago you could sell a perfectly technological videogame to a much smaller audience, including fine packaging, shipping and retailing costs for 60$ and it was an incredibly sustainable business model. Nowdays that the market is bigger than music+movies combined, you can't sell a perfectly technological videogame without having to cut on packaging, shipping and retailing for 70 bucks?!

Long story short, production costs has gone up but that cost is already paid by videogames selling a lot more, so I don't see why they have to cut more corners in order to make more money.

You keep saying that that extra money they "steal" is invested for development of future games but how do you know?! How do you know they are not simply raising the publishers' salaries?! When you buy, say, Ducktales: Remastered digitally, how do you know that most of your money is actually going to WayForward (the people who actually made the game) rather than Capcom (the people who just published the game)? If you buy Super Mario 3D World digitally rather than physically, do you think Koichi Hayashida (the designer) gets more money? What's wrong with case/booklet manufacturers - they have always done an excellent job as far as I remember.

The more money publishers/developers make the more money they want to put back into their game to make even more money. No company is going to be satisfied with making a certain amount and not trying to make more, in any industry. Companies will continue to try to make more money.

The market is bigger and consumer expectations are much bigger. Increasing the amount consumers have to pay is a risky move. Consumers expect games to look better and play better without paying the extra. Just like people expect music to sound better and movies to look better. Sometimes asking consumers to pay a higher price works but who wants to take that risk when they can cut back on the aspects of a game that don't matter. (the box a game comes in)

Because the industry standards are constantly going up and they need to fund their next, bigger project. So more money is required as companies move forward.

How developers/publishers get paid is another detail we don't need to go into. When I said "I am fine with that as I know that means more of my money is going to the developers and not the case/booklet manufactures." I used developers as a blanket term to mean the people actually making games (which includes publishers). And just cause the individual person doesn't get direct money from each copy that is sold they get paid in the way of being hired to make another game with a larger budget. So the more money that goes into development, skipping packaging and advertisement and everything else, the better a game can be. So If they cut back on the "unnecessary" parts of selling you a game and are able to put more money into the core areas (the content of the game, instead of the content of a box) then that is better for the industry as a whole.

So while I understand the complaint of cheaper cases = less interesting display. I understand that cheap cases = more money towards development. I wonder if a company could be created that makes full cases for collectors that want them. They could even partner up with companies and get offical art. They could also do digital only games. The boxes would just be empty and just for display but it is an idea

Came across this thread earlier today.

Just wanted to confirm that the blue Wii U eco cases are NOT environmentally friendly, whatsoever. On a Wii U case, take out the booklet, and look at the space under the recycle cutout holes. Theres small fineprint engraved there that says:

"This case contains no recycleable materials, and may not be recycled in your area".

The company that supplies the cases to Nintendo, however, contradicts that statement. Go to the Viva Eco-Box About page, and it states that they are 100% recycleable.

I pointed this out during a call to NOA and they could give a doooooooooooooooooooooooggeypoop less. Wish there was a way to contact Viva Media Packaging about the issue, but they have no general email support for contact.

One could argue that by using less material, it is more enivronmentally conscious, even if the material is not recyclable.

Also, just because the case is not made with recycled materials doesn't mean that the case can't be recycled. You just have to make sure you take it to the right place to be recycled because not all places will accept it.

Regardless, nobody is going to go out of their way to recycle these dumb things. NA and AUS are the only ones using them.

Europe and Japan are actually smart enough to avoid them. MIcrosoft got rid of them after many complaints of ruined artwork and broken cases (even new/sealed games), so why Nintendo is sticking with these is beyond me or anyone else.

Fact is, there are in fact recyclable cases that do exist and that actually DO have 100% recycled materials, and would be much better than these penny saving junk cases.

I actually have a legitimate complaint about cases. The Wii U cases are so awkwardly designed that it's hard to push the discs out of the case. I think Nintendo should cut out the plastic elsewhere