Topic: Kid Icarus Fan Discussion Thread 2

A lot of Sakurai games seem to have that Menu design.

Dark undertone unique? Again, be more specific. If you mean dark themes, incorrect. Professor Layton (which isn't developed by Ninty but published) contains a lot of more depressing themes with humor, despite those being slightly more realistic. It's a bit inverted with the mixture, but still. Other games also have dark themes to them as well.

If you meant the exact sort of mixture, you'd be right. However, not too many games by Nintendo feature voice acting. The only other ones I can think of are Metroid: Other M (which was pretty bad) and the S&P series (VA isn't worth a damn IMO).

Most of those are pretty minor points and not as dark as stuff you'd find in Power Rangers. Though you'd have to elaborate on chapter 11.

How far did you get in that game? Basically, the opening sequence is a giant war. Footage for about 20 seconds plays while you shoot enemies. Suddenly you're pulled back, and everybody explodes. Viridi threw a "reset bomb" at them, designed to kill humans and anything man-made (or something like that).
You learn that a few (like, 8 out of thousands of) people survived.

Also I don't watch Power Rangers, but Kid Icarus did have some dark themes in it, moreso then other old kids shows (and typically those were handled in a more serious fashion then, say, Billy and Mandy or Invader Zim).

@CanisWolfred - If I may at least try to elaborate on that; at the very beginning of that chapter, there's a huge war between humans going on (fire arrows flying all over the place, nothing but war cries, etc.). About 30 seconds or so in; the sky shines, Palutena quickly takes Pit away and the war with the hundreds of thousands of humans is instantly silenced by Viridi's Reset Bomb explosion, murdering the majority.

Isn't that at least a little dark?
EDIT: @rayword45 beat me to it but you get my point, right?

It depends on how it's presented. I'll look it up later to see for myself.

I guess you didn't get terribly far in the game...

I got to chapter 4 and sold the stupid thing.

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Why are you on a fan discussion board if you hated it?

Cuz I liked the NES Kid Icarus, but no one's talking about it.

@CanisWolfred
Aaah! Okay I could chat about that if you want. Mind you, I'm not terribly far into it.

@CanisWolfred
If you're a fan of just the original, I can understand your irritation far better, sorry.

Like I said, I would like an eShop return to the original Kid Icarus format (with newer elements from Uprising like customizable weapons and (to what would be your chagrin) voice acting, but I can't see that working for retail.

Reasons

1. It'd be too short for retail, and if it attempted to be that long (say, oh, more the 5-7 hours) I fear it'd be terribly drawn out.
2. The style of gameplay probably wouldn't be too mass marketable. It's one weird sidescroller/vertical scroller/mini-Metroidvania/scrolling shooter, changing pace a lot.

@rayword
Like I said, that is a pretty good idea, I'd buy it.

@CanisWolfred
The original board was labeled KI Uprising fan board, this one wasn't due to ease, but I'd guess most here are fans of the new, as it's practically a new IP, sorry.

Without complaining about Uprising, how good is the original? I might give a shot one day.
Also between the NES game and the GB game, which one's more accessible?

I'm afraid a 2-D Kid Icarus with voice acting wouldn't work either way especially considering Nintendo's track record with that aspect.

Actually, Nintendo Outsourced most of its Voice Acting for Kid Icarus Uprising and Other M. We have yet to really see what Nintendo themselves could do when it comes to Voice Overs. But yeah, if they're gonna do a 2-D Sidescrolling KI, I'd prefer it if it was silent. I do agree that it should have 3D models, though.

Actually, I'm a bit sad that Nintendo has yet to capitalize on the possibilities of digital distribution when it comes to existing franchises. We've gotten a new Doctor Mario and Rumble Blast on Wiiware, and March of the Minis on DSiware, with a 3DSware one coming soon. Those all worked out great, so why dn't we see more of that? I get that Nintendo doesn't want to hog the spotlight, but I just don't see why we don't get a least a little more. Sony's got about 10 or so PSN games based on existing franchises, and plenty of other companies are putting out old franchises on digital formats. It's just frustrating to see Nintendo not utitlize things that way.

But I guess I can't complain too much, since we have gotten some Nice new IPs from Nintendo on the eShop.

Uprising is what the franchise needed. I didn't like the NES installment at all. I still need to give the Game Boy one a try.

@CanisWolfred
What were your main complaintments with Uprising?

I'd argue that objectively Kid Icarus had great voice acting. But how could I argue that's objective?

They managed to get some big names in terms of voice acting like Tara Strong and Cree Summer, and I'd argue that the majority agrees that the voice acting was handled better then expected for almost any video game, let alone a Nintendo game.

Of course expectations were ultra low after M:OM and Sin and Punishment (does that count?).