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Reala

Considering the GC is my least favourite of nintendo's consoles not including the virtuaboy, I don't really see that as a compliment to the 3DS personally, don't see the 3DS as a game changer myself but of the current gen of machines its the only one that caught ,my interest so far.

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I wouldn't use the amount of shovelware as a negative indicator.

If anything, it means the console is more popular and more developers think it's a good one to work on.

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I wasn't a big fan of the Gamecube, but anyway I'd say no, the best Nintendo system since Super NES is the Wii. For the crap it got from 'hardcore' gamers, the Wii actually had a really good library. In it's prime years from 06 to 2010, it had a steady flow of great first party games mixed in with some third party gems like Sin and Punishment, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter, Klonoa and No More Heroes 1 and 2. The 3DS is great and quickly catching up to Wii but it's not quite there yet. This time next year, though, I'll probably have 3DS second behind SNES on my all-time Nintendo system list.

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I love my 3DS and as soon as we get Smash Ru-- I mean Super Smash Bros. 3D it'll be the handheld GameCubeorwhateveryourfavoritehomeconsolewas

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Moorpheel wrote:

I wouldn't use the amount of shovelware as a negative indicator.

If anything, it means the console is more popular and more developers think it's a good one to work on.

Problem is that unless you're really plugged into gaming culture, shovelware can easily hide worthier games on the shelves. The ultimate example of this is mobile markets today for Android and iOS devices. There are actually a number of really good mobile titles, but it can be hard to find them when you have to dig through 50 Bejeweled and Temple Run clones first.

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is the comparision between the hardware alone or between the libraries??

hardware wise: yes 3DS is better.
libraries: even though i never had a gamecube i played some of those games in later remakes (like RE4 or metroid prime). i think so far the 3DS has some really cool games but nothing as epic as metroid prime for example. honestly most of the first party stuff in the last 2 years was disappointing to me. the only game that really stands out is animal crossing new leaf.

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Speaking of games and not the hardware, the GameCube remains as my favorite Nintendo console, followed by the N64.

The Crazy amount of good games released for it, which I mostly played at least 3 months non-stop each. Games like Animal Crossing (It was crazy how addicted I was to it, unfortunately the game's replay value after a few months gets very low), the Mario games: Mario Party 4, Mario Tennis Power, Super Mario Sunshine (which some levels were a little bit difficult for me at the time), and of course Paper Mario: TTYD (I was really dissapointed on the Wii sequel) and Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (I got it as a Christmas gift, and I couldn't put it down until March-April).

There's of course other Nintendo games like Metroid Prime, which I've never been interested in, but my brothers LOVED those.

I also played the 2 StarFox games, Adventures and Assault, those were my first ever StarFox games, and I loved then. Specially Assault and it's multiplayer mode.

Other 3rd Party games like NFS: Most Wanted, SSX Tricky and SSX Blur, Soul Calibur II (an amazing game), Harvest Moon: A New Beginning (not nearly as addictive as HM 64, but very enjoyable), Baten Kaitos: And The Lost Ocean (my first JRPG), and of course the 2 Viewtiful Joe games, which I never finished due to how hard they were (even playing in Kids difficulty).

And don't get me started on the Zelda games. Wind Waker: I really liked that game when I first played it, despite how tedious some quest were. And there's Twilight Princess, which if you were a kid, it was so dark and a little bit creepy, but yet so epic. So at that time, that game was as epic as Nintendo could get.

And finally, Smash Bros. Melee, the game me and my brothers played almost an entire year daily, something unfortunately Brawl didn't repeated for us.

So yes, for me the GameCube was Nintendo at it's best in terms of software, something I'm seeing them starting to repeat with the amount of "must-have" games that are starting to come out for the Wii U, and I'm sure will come out this, next year, and the year after that.

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Peach64

The DS library is still miles ahead of the 3DS for me. The Gamecube library is closer, but still ahead. I honestly don't see the 3DS selection as anything amazing right now. Good, definitely, but I think a lot of the reaction to it, is because of how bad the first two years were. In 2013, genuinely good games started appearing quite frequently and it sort of caught everyone off guard after all that time of thinking of it as a console without any good games. It COULD surpass those systems if it lasts long enough, but I don't think it is. Sales are massively down in Japan and I think the successor will be out within the next 2 years unless something changes soon.

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MuchoMochi

The thing I love about the 3DS is it's the first system in years from Nintendo where the selling point isn't the gimmick. Sure, it's cool that the 3DS has the ability to play games in 3D, and some of those games are gorgeous in it, but it doesn't affect gameplay wether or not it's on/off. The DS is an amazing handheld with great games, but titles such as the Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks are held back by the stylus controller gimmick that I wasn't fond of. The same situation but to a much greater extent with the Wii, the Wii mote is easily my least favorite Nintendo controller of all time, and although Nintendo gave the console support of Gamecube, and all the iterations of the classic controller, some games don't. Do I enjoy the Wii's library? Yes, but I don't enjoy the controls for some of the best games of last generation. 3DS just focuses on gameplay, Nintendo couldn't afford to focus on using all the gimmicks of the system, they needed to sell the damn thing and now there are some amazing games on it. I hope it continues to impress!

That being said, I think the DS and Wii were great in their own right, all Nintendo consoles have a charm. I don't think that the DS and Wii were bad, and that saying the 3DS is the best since might not be correct.

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GuSilverFlame wrote:

I love my 3DS and as soon as we get Smash Ru-- I mean Super Smash Bros. 3D it'll be the handheld GameCubeorwhateveryourfavoritehomeconsolewas

Pretty much. I'm basically like, if it doesn't have City Trial, it can't compete. Now that the 3DS is getting its own version of City Trial though... It could definitely surpass the Cube. KAR isn't the only thing I like about the Game Cube though. It was our family's first console, it has Luigi's Mansion, which I liked so much I played through it FOUR times, (And when I was that age, I barely ever finished any of the games I started) Super Mario Sunshine is one of the few Super Mario games I finished, I used to play Double Dash a lot, played Animal Crossing a lot... Basically, the Game Cube not only has plenty of great games, and it also has a nice amount of nostalgia for me. The 3DS is definitely amazing too, though, but I guess we can only truly decide when the 3DS's life span is over.

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Best since the DS. Yes, the DS had a lot of shovelware, but that means nothing. The PS2 and GBA had lots of shovelware but they're still two of the best gaming platforms ever, imo.

I don't get why people think so negatively of shovelware. It's not like you have to buy shovelware games, and it's pretty easy to spot shovelware so you don't buy it by accident. I say the more the merrier as long as the games are somewhat decent quality.

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I actually played my Gamecube for the entirety of its life and beyond whereas my 3DS gets no love... So no it isn't

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MuchoMochi wrote:

The thing I love about the 3DS is it's the first system in years from Nintendo where the selling point isn't the gimmick. Sure, it's cool that the 3DS has the ability to play games in 3D, and some of those games are gorgeous in it, but it doesn't affect gameplay wether or not it's on/off. The DS is an amazing handheld with great games, but titles such as the Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks are held back by the stylus controller gimmick that I wasn't fond of. The same situation but to a much greater extent with the Wii, the Wii mote is easily my least favorite Nintendo controller of all time, and although Nintendo gave the console support of Gamecube, and all the iterations of the classic controller, some games don't. Do I enjoy the Wii's library? Yes, but I don't enjoy the controls for some of the best games of last generation. 3DS just focuses on gameplay, Nintendo couldn't afford to focus on using all the gimmicks of the system, they needed to sell the damn thing and now there are some amazing games on it. I hope it continues to impress!

That being said, I think the DS and Wii were great in their own right, all Nintendo consoles have a charm. I don't think that the DS and Wii were bad, and that saying the 3DS is the best since might not be correct.

I pretty much agree with everything said here, plus, I think for every great title last generation (Super Mario Galaxy, etc.), there was something mediocre (Wii Party/Play/Music, etc.). The DS also had a lot of games which abused the dual screens or especially the stylus to ill effect (especially early in the DS's lifespan.) The 3D effect is pretty much a non-factor for the 3DS, thus the greater concentration on traditional gameplay mechanics.

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I've got to skip the Wii/DS generation to get to the conclusion that the 3DS is the best system since the GCN. Right now, I think the 3DS is a few titles off of the Wii. It's getting Tomodachi Life, Kirby Triple Deluxe and the next Smash Brothers, add in a new Metroid, and it'll be there for me. Compared to the DS though, I think the 3DS is far behind. Having more shovelware means the system was big, not that it was terrible. That popularity created a lot of gems as well. Since I'm only interested in the gems, DS wins for me. My DS library of great titles is probably 2-3 times the amount of the titles I have for the 3DS that I consider in that same discussion.

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Peach64 wrote:

I think the successor will be out within the next 2 years

terrible prediction

The GBA was released only 3 years before the DS was so its not like its impossible.

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I think the next 3DS won't be out until 2018. They still haven't really overloaded the 3DS with as much software as DS, so I expect the library to double, or possibly triple before they decide to make another one.

I think one major plus to creating DS games, was that it was easier, and the system itself was always sold cheaper(besides 2DS), so it was able to sell more and have more supporr. Since 3DS is a good deal more advanced and expensive as the DS was, it will take longer for it sell better and have more software.

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MAN1AC

Corporations do not have a specific number that they want to hit in terms of profitability or amount of software put on a console before they announce new hardware. And as of right now the 3DS is down YoY despite the amazing software lineup Nintendo had in 2013. This isnt really Nintendo's fault though...their 1st party software has been MUCH better this gen imo and Iwata even made moves like securing Monster Hunter as an exclusive to make sure the 3DS would kill the competition. The market has just changed.

You also cannot compare the 3DS and DS because the market was different back then and its unrealistic to expect those type of sales or profit with smartphones being as prevalent as they are today. The ball could bounce either way with that 2 year prediction, but you've lost ur mind if you think it will be another 4 years before Nintendo releases their next handheld. The only way I could see that happening is if they dumped a ridiculous amount of resources into whatever QOL is and as far as we know right now Iwata has said that their gaming hardware will remain a top priority.

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That's why I brought the amount of software I think will happen. If 3DS doubles its software count, and 3DS consoles keep selling, they'll just keep selling software and 3DS systems. It's simple.

I'm not saying that will happen, or that any company in particular is counting the amount of software abd basing their console off of that. What I am saying, is that 3DS will continue to be easier to develop for, which will most likely result in more software, which will result in more sales, which will result in more software, and it will still continue to be easier to develop for.

There's more aspects to look at than hardware sales. If everyone bought 10 digital retail games right now, Nintendo would just develop or pay someone to develop more software, which just results in more software and hardware sales. That's the goal they're aiming for. Lastly, QOL could play a role, but they aren't going to discontinue a console that is still selling software and consoles, unless the s*** is so unbelievably outdated.

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RobbEJay

I'd say its right up there with the Gamecube, and could probably surpass it at this rate. Its definitely matches both the DS and Wii in quality, though its hard to judge due to the shear quantity those two have over it. The number Pokemon games released for the DS alone is mind-boggling. Over-all to me its probably the best since the Gamecube, mainly due to Mario Galaxy, Brawl, Twilight Princess, MH3, and the Project Rainfall games that the Wii really has over it and the DS has quite a few remakes and re-releases that make up a good portion of its best games.

MAN1AC wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Peach64 wrote:

I think the successor will be out within the next 2 years

terrible prediction

The GBA was released only 3 years before the DS was so its not like its impossible.

The DS was also meant as a 3rd pillar, not a successor. You could probably say it was just an experiment gone right. 2-3 years is still reasonable considering it will be hitting the 4-5 year mark by then.

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