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VoltageX

First of all, sorry if Im supposed to post this in a pokemon thread, my question just doesnt relate to a specific game.
after countless of runs in every possible pokemon game between gen 4 and 6, I decided to give online a go. The problem is that Im a single player type of pokemon gamer- online is a whole new world to me.
For example, I know that for online sets you should have status moves, depend on weather some of the times, choose the items correctly... not just choosing your favorite pokemon and give it 4 attack moves depending on its typing.
Also, the EV training- what should I do if my pokemon is fully trained before I even started? should I use stat reducing berries, or just hatch a lvl 1 pokemon and start from scratch? and the whole EV proccess is different in the 6 gen as far as I know, is it easy to get used to?

Im really confused, dont really know where to start and if Im even suitable to this kind of gaming XD Being an RPG fan, Im used to raise my characters, leveling them up, get new skills and beat bosses. This is like a whole new world to me.

Thanks in advance! =]

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VoltageX

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TeeJay

I wish I could give you a definitive answer. I've given online Pokemon battling a few fair shakes on several different occassions but the result is always the same. I lose nearly every game; the opponent always has the exact pokemon that would completely mess up my team or strategy despite having a choice of 3 out of 6 pokemon per battle.

It seems like just EV training isn't enough anymore given how accessable it is now, and I'm not willing to put in the effort to get the minimum requirement of perfect EVs and IVs to even stand a chance online.

...I'm sorry that kind of turned into a rant there. But yeah, people will eat you alive online unless your pokemon are absolutely perfect statwise and that really bugs me.

...To actually make an attempt at answering the question, I would say to get ideas about pokemon sets, google Smogon and check out some of their recommended sets. They are by no means the definitive way to use the pokemon you want to use but they do have some good ideas.

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crimsontadpoles

I haven't done that much competitive battling, so I might be forgetting things, but you'll probably want to start doing a lot of breeding. Firstly, choose which pokemon you want to use (smogon's website has a lot on competitive battling). Once you've decided, you'll want to keep breeding until you get a pokemon with the nature want and good IVs. Look online for breeding guides to help.

Once you've breed an adequate creature, EVs are very important. Look online for EV training guides and they'll tell you what pokemon are best to battle to get the correct EVs. Be very careful if you have EXP Share turned on since pokemon not in battle can still get EVs if you defeat or capture a pokemon.

In short, the pokemon's nature and EVs are both very important to get right when battling competitively online. IVs are also really important, buy they're much trickier to get right so it might be worthwhile not worrying about them until you are more familiar with online battles. Check online for breeding and EV training guides, and Smogon is useful for finding out what's good in competitive battling.

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Octane

ShanaUnite wrote:

Haru17 wrote:

Lasciate ogni speranza voi che entrate qui.

Best quote ever.

Should've been ''Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate'', but oh well...

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Octane wrote:

ShanaUnite wrote:

Haru17 wrote:

Lasciate ogni speranza voi che entrate qui.

Best quote ever.

Should've been ''Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate'', but oh well...

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Pretty much this (also lol Octane's reply), you either have to waste a large amount of time breeding the perfect mons or cheat with a power save device.

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VoltageX

Thanks everyone. the problem is, I mainly use underrated pokemon and not the highly recommended oned with the better stats (like garchomp, heatran etc) which I see all over the place. even if I use the stronger ones, Im clueless about what sets to give them and how to EV train them.
I managed to win on my first battle with 3 pokemon that had attacking moves, due to some right switching and predictions I did, but it wont be that every battle. once the opponent use moves like minimize, toxic and substitue Im in trouble, and dont really know which status moves to choose for my own sets.

Like you said, if you wanna shine in online battling you really need to work hard for it. and Im used to work hard in RPGs, just not in that way (I can lvl my team to max level and do battle frontier for countless hours, but after two hours of breeding Im bored to death XD)

Anyway, thanks for all the comments =]

VoltageX

jump

Here's some useful links:

Breeding:
http://www.gameskinny.com/d980i/pokemon-omega-ruby-and-alpha-...

EV:
http://www.serebii.net/games/evs.shtml

And pokedex, click on the pokes you like and you can see a good moveset and strategy for them
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/

It's probably best to start from strach as even if you have good in game pokes chances are it's EV aren't boosted usefully and it'll need egg moves. First off get yourself set up by catching dittos, play battle mansion etc to make sure you have the right tools, then decide on the team you want and slowly work to getting it, for me it'll take 2-4 hours to breed 1 high ev pokes with the moves I want so it'll take around 20hours to get your team, it doesn't sound as time consuming as you'd think as I normally do it whilst watching telly as it doesn't require much focus on the game.

When coming up with 1 of my teams I normally start by choosing 3 pokes, the first being a powerhouse Poke, the second being something that will help set the key poke up and the third being a counter to the whatever the most likely counter for my key poke then with the last 3 slots used to bring balance to my team. For example Mawile with a mega stone is a powerhouse but slow so I batton pass it from a Blakizen with speedboost and since fire types are common counters for Mawile I have a Wash Rotom.

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VoltageX

Great help, ill look in the links and I think ill go with your idea- building a 3 pokemon team based on what you said. Sounds like something I can start with =]

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