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Topic: Gameplay/Graphics: what's it to you?

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HueyPNewton

21. Posted:

Oregano wrote:

Yes Chris does look close to his Resi 5 incarnation but if you look at his arms on the shot where he's walking through the corridor you can see it has less polygons.

The environments in the MGS demo look fantastic to me but I don't really know how or why character models would look superb and environments poor, I'm not a developer after all.

EDIT: Here's a perfect example of Resi though:
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Look at her arm, where the sleeve isn't smooth, showing a lack of polygons. If it wasn't real time that would be smooth as you can see in the CG in DS games.

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Oregano wrote:

Yes Chris does look close to his Resi 5 incarnation but if you look at his arms on the shot where he's walking through the corridor you can see it has less polygons.

The environments in the MGS demo look fantastic to me but I don't really know how or why character models would look superb and environments poor, I'm not a developer after all.

EDIT: Here's a perfect example of Resi though:
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Look at her arm, where the sleeve isn't smooth, showing a lack of polygons. If it wasn't real time that would be smooth as you can see in the CG in DS games.

I see what you're saying. Even here in Chris's elbow/lower arm area you can tell it's lacking polygons, but honestly it's hardly a big deal as everything else looks spectacular.

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I'm just dieing to see more screenshots, and an actual teaser or gameplay footage.

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Good graphics are nice but I'd rather play a good game that keeps my interest for a long period of time than the videogame equivalent of a 90 minute movie that you won't want to watch again.

However... if a good game doesn't have good graphics then I would want a remake with good graphics. Or better graphics, whatever. Keep the quality the same but make the graphics much better. If they wanted to remake the original NES Zelda game with realistic graphics then I'd tell them to go ahead.

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WaveBoy wrote:

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I'm just dieing to see more screenshots, and an actual teaser or gameplay footage.

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25. Posted:

Good graphics =/= bad gameplay

There really is no direct relationship between the two unless the developer solely focuses on one versus the other

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26. Posted:

to sum it up in a simple equation:
Good graphics + good game play > good graphics + bad game play = bad graphics + good game play > bad graphics + bad game play

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HolyMackerel

27. Posted:

Graphics and gameplay aren't mutually exclusive. One aspect doesn't have to suffer for the other to flourish.

There are games which look great and play great. That's an almost perfect combination for a game.

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graphics have been improving since gaming started but gaming is still fun

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GreatManaTree

29. Posted:

A question about graphics,is allways interesting to me!Off course it would be nice;3ds,with the power of ps3.I think the graphics look superb on 3ds.After a looooong period of 16 bit graphics,finally a massive upgrade,AND 3d!!!

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Token_Girl

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Most of the time good graphics and gameplay go hand in hand. Think about the best games on Wii, most are also amongst the best looking on the system. Why? Because the developer cared enough to polish their game, and it shows in both the gameplay and graphics. Systems that have the power for better graphics can also use that power for smarter AI, longer games, etc. While you can have impressive graphics without strong gameplay (ex. many cutscene heavy games) or vice versa (ex. Wii Sports, I like the style, but those graphics certainly are not pushing the Wii's limits), most of the time they're not mutually exclusive like many Nintendo fanboys like to believe.

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31. Posted:

Good graphics are fine and dandy, but unless they're there to enhance the gameplay, they won't hold a candle to a solid gameplay system.

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32. Posted:

I think that if it has graphics as good as a ps2 I'm buying one!

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HolyMackerel

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@ffXoverlord It's shown graphics far better than the PS2. Apart from the poly counts (though they are also very impressive), I'd subjectively put it almost on par with the Xbox 360. Definitely better than the Wii.

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Gamesake

34. Posted:

Graphics are the least important part of a game. Sometimes I even unplug my video cable from the TV. It just gets in the way of the music and Canadian voice acting.

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Bankai

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I will never understand why there's this taboo amongst certain categories of gamers around wanting good graphics.

I'm gonna put this out there - I hate games with crappy graphics. I don't care how good the game itself is, I want a game that looks good (and by that I don't care about HD, I just want aesthetically pleasing), and plays well.

Anything less is an inferiour game.

With that in mind, I'm pretty sure having a more powerful console doesn't mean Nintendo is going to suddenlty forget how to make a good game. And if Nintendo does forget that... well I don't care for Nintendo games much anyway. I've still got Square Enix and Tecmo Koei.

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36. Posted:

Gamesake wrote:

Graphics are the least important part of a game. Sometimes I even unplug my video cable from the TV. It just gets in the way of the music and Canadian voice acting.

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37. Posted:

Nice graphics are nice and all but the problem is when the game knows it looks nice and goes out of it's way to make sure we notice. It can really brake the flow for me when a cut scene is a minute longer just so it can show itself off (Im looking at you FFXIII). But maybe im just jealous that I cant make such pretty things.

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Link-Hero

38. Posted:

While great graphics can add to the game a little, it's the least important part of the game. That goes to the gameplay, music/sounds, story, and art style. Those are the parts that should be primary to everyone, but sadly, that's not the case.

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KaiserGX

39. Posted:

In order for me, graphics, story, art style, music, game play.

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Bankai

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malnin wrote:

Nice graphics are nice and all but the problem is when the game knows it looks nice and goes out of it's way to make sure we notice. It can really brake the flow for me when a cut scene is a minute longer just so it can show itself off (Im looking at you FFXIII). But maybe im just jealous that I cant make such pretty things.

I honestly can't think of a single cut scene in FFXIII that was too long. If you had have said Metal Gear Solid, now...

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