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Boidoh

81. Posted:

rayword45 wrote:

. If you complain about Kid Icarus controls, I honestly don't understand how you can playSM64DS Seriously. Playing it with a D-Pad is just wrong.

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On the 3DS you can use the circle pad.

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The weapon system has enough depth (which is content) alone to make it a deeper game than MPH.

I completely disagree, as you seem to evalute content as the sole contributor for a deeper experience. I evalute game depth on the amount of content and how that content is used within the game itself. While you can throw around that 108 ways to experience a level number, there is still no strategy involved during a level as only one weapon is available for use at a time. Also, who is going to play a level 108 times in the first place? Should I count how many ways I can play the single player of Metroid Prime Hunters with all the possible amounts of energy tanks, Missile expansions and UA ammo expansions I can get along with the varying routes? There is no way that the weapon system of Kid Icarus Uprising makes it a deeper game than Metroid Prime Hunters, but since I want to be done with this discussion and since I imagine you do too, I'm willing to agree that they are equally very deep experiences in their own right.

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If you complain about Kid Icarus controls, I honestly don't understand how you can play SM64DS. Seriously. Playing it with a D-Pad is just wrong.

The d-pad covers all directions needed to experience a 3D platformer. Flicking to turn in KI:U sent the reticle sliding as Pit turned. I would have liked it more had flicking simply ignored the reticle's position on screen, and just let Pit turn. The D-pad didn't annoy me at all. Playing games with a d-pad on a handheld was something I had been use to for years once I got the Nintendo DS. I actually had to get use to the 3DS's circle pad more so for its games due to not being use to that kind of input on a handheld.

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83. Posted:

Boidoh wrote:

On the 3DS you can use the circle pad.

+1 to the 3DS

Not attacking you, but I'm freaking sick of that argument.

Let's give you Pac-Man Championship Edition. Compare the D-Pad to the analog stick. No matter which feels more natural, it's THE EXACT SAME.

It all lies in the placebo, it still seriously lacks analog control.

Should I count how many ways I can play the single player of Metroid Prime Hunters with all the possible amounts of energy tanks, Missile expansions and UA ammo expansions I can get along with the varying routes?

No, because that's completely different. Missing hidden content is completely different from having weapons.

Comparison - I got an 100% run on MPH's campaign. If I deliberately miss energy tanks or missile upgrades, that's more content. FALSE, unless you have some sort of love for grinding.
I'm going to get the perfect weapon, and that will probably require I try out several different weapons. True.

If a game includes 108 alternate weapons, that's more content. If a game has a controllable camera and you choose to go through the entire game facing backwards, that's not more content.

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84. Posted:

@Thread: Considering the 3DS can play all the DS games, why is there even any competition?

They're the same console... One is just a next gen version of the other.

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DS Lite has the GBA library. If we include backwards compatibility (not VC) then DS Lite wins by miles for me if only due to nostalgia.

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And I'm sure the worthwhile GBA games will become available in one form or another on the 3DS, eventually.

I already have my favorite GBA game and some new favorites on my 3DS, anyway.

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87. Posted:

who made this pointless forum. 3DS FTW...

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88. Posted:

rayword45 wrote:

Boidoh wrote:

On the 3DS you can use the circle pad.

+1 to the 3DS

Not attacking you, but I'm freaking sick of that argument.

Let's give you Pac-Man Championship Edition. Compare the D-Pad to the analog stick. No matter which feels more natural, it's THE EXACT SAME.

It all lies in the placebo, it still seriously lacks analog control.

That takes me back to my PSX days.

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DS Lite has the GBA library. If we include backwards compatibility (not VC) then DS Lite wins by miles

The GBA did have some great games. I actually liked them better than most of what I played on the DS Lite.

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89. Posted:

About 50/50 at the moment.

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Well TBH I'm enjoying my 3DS more so far. The 3DS has some absolutely stellar games and a large amount of good/great ones, but the 3DS has games that are mildly more stellar. So in my case it's basically quality > quantity, but I of course love both. The 3DS also has more future potential. Heck, Animal Crossing and Pokémon will come out this year and there's at least a 99% chance that those will be absolutely wonderful.

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And the winner is...PSVita

Not-as-biased mode, activate!: I'm actually going to get one soon probably maybe for a more comfortable version of the PSP. It's too clunky for playing Crash. But I think if developers would release stuff other than ports, shovelware, minigame collections, or side-titles then it would have a lot of stuff that could be just as worthwhile, but as it is now it's mostly wasted potential.
(And yes I know this is joking, but I needed to dump my Vita rant somewhere.)

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91. Posted:

Kid Icarus: Uprising means 3DS wins by far for me.

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92. Posted:

Why would you compare a 3DS to a DS when the 3DS can do everything the DS did plus more?

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93. Posted:

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Why would you compare a 3DS to a DS when the 3DS can do everything the DS did plus more?

The 3DS can play Spyro Advance: Wakuwaku Tomodachi Daisakusen!? :O

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94. Posted:

@ClassicJetterz Mostly it's comparing DS Games to 3DS games, plus the DS was backwards compatible with GBA games.

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95. Posted:

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Why would you compare a 3DS to a DS when the 3DS can do everything the DS did plus more?

comparing in terms of what do you enjoy more.

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I think it's time to move on, personally. I wasn't upset with the DSi (I did enjoy the DSi Xl more than the Lite/Phat) for removing GBA features. I'm not mad at the Wii U for removing GCN features.

So I suppose it doesn't bother me that the 3DS doesn't have it either. I've played one DS game on my 3DS (Professor Layton and the Last Specter)...but I suppose in terms of library my DS had a bigger collection. To be fair though, 3DS is not only building, it's only had two years to build.

I think we'll start seeing sequels to our favorite DS titles, so it's a matter of time until 3DS will have more.

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Nuisance wrote:

ClassicJetterz wrote:

Why would you compare a 3DS to a DS when the 3DS can do everything the DS did plus more?

comparing in terms of what do you enjoy more.

I thought people were comparing the game libraries, but if it's solely based on what we enjoy more then I pick 3DS by miles. I can play all my DS games on it and play retro titles with the eShop and ambassador games. Plus, DSiWare and 3DSWare are available on the 3DS. Even the apps and extra features are better on a 3DS than a DS.

I like the little improvements like the ability to pause a game and then open Game Notes or your Friends List (or having a friends list at all) without shutting down whatever game you're playing. I like being able to adjust the brightness of your 3DS without shutting down a game. Sometimes I start playing a game during the day with full brightness on, close it up, and then don't start again until it's dark. In the past I had to stick with the brightness I had the screen on. Again, it's a lot of little things like that that have made the 3DS a giant improvement over the DS. And believe me, I loved my DS.

Plus, I'm a fan of the 3D. The visuals on the 3DS blow the DS away.

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98. Posted:

rayword45 wrote:

Comparison - I got an 100% run on MPH's campaign. If I deliberately miss energy tanks or missile upgrades, that's more content. FALSE, unless you have some sort of love for grinding.
I'm going to get the perfect weapon, and that will probably require I try out several different weapons. True.

I'm not talking about experimenting to find the perfect weapon, I'm talking about his 108 possibilities to experience a level in Uprising. There is no such achievement for doing that, so it falls right into the same boat as me doing all kinds of different runs with varying amounts of energy tanks, Missile expansions and UA expansions. I could argue that getting faster times in Metroid Prime Hunters, which is recorded by the game, can be just as involving as messing around with weapons to find out which is the "best" in Uprising. Again, just like the 108 times for each level, there is no achievement for finding the "perfect weapon."

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If a game includes 108 alternate weapons, that's more content.

It's content, but it isn't more content unless we're solely judging the depth of these two games on their weapon selection. As I said before, I'm not judging depth solely on gameplay content but story content as well, and how it all comes together.

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...and Kid Icarus: Uprising comes together great. I really can't see what your problem is with Kid Icarus: Uprising. It is SO EASY to control, and if it isn't easy, you can CHANGE THE CONTROLS. All I can see is you trying(and failing) to have a reason to hate Kid Icarus: Uprising. There is a ton to do in Kid Icarus: Uprising(I am 99.9% sure you don't have all the achievements, or have 10,000+ online KOs, or have tried fusing a great weapon), and I'm not kidding. I've been playing KIU since day 1, have something like 300 hours on it, and STILL don't have all the achievements, 10,000+ KOs, or all 25 9.0s(although I do have 335 achievements and 16 9.0s). No, there's no achievement for finding the perfect weapon in Kid Icarus Uprising, but so what? It means you can dominate online with a bit of skill.YOu obviously haven't played or talked about Uprising enough to understand it. When I play online with my friends(indeed, even in random online) I don't use my best weapon, unless absolutely neccesary. Uprising is a skill game, a risk-reward game, and a game that even though it's based on weapons, if you have the skill and knowledge of KIU, you can take down almost anyone.

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Nuisance wrote:

ClassicJetterz wrote:

Why would you compare a 3DS to a DS when the 3DS can do everything the DS did plus more?

comparing in terms of what do you enjoy more.

I thought people were comparing the game libraries, but if it's solely based on what we enjoy more then I pick 3DS by miles. I can play all my DS games on it and play retro titles with the eShop and ambassador games. Plus, DSiWare and 3DSWare are available on the 3DS. Even the apps and extra features are better on a 3DS than a DS.

I like the little improvements like the ability to pause a game and then open Game Notes or your Friends List (or having a friends list at all) without shutting down the system. I like being able to adjust the brightness of your 3DS without shutting down a game. Sometimes I start playing a game during the day with full brightness on, close it up, and then don't start again until it's dark. In the past I had to stick with the brightness I had the screen on. Again, it's a lot of little things like that that have made the 3DS a giant improvement over the DS. And believe me, I loved my DS.

Plus, I'm a fan of the 3D. The visuals on the 3DS blow the DS away.

Yeah some of the other people took this to a different place or misunderstood, then started talking about the PS Vita, But i'm mad at Nintendo for not letting me use Flipnote on my 3DS >:C

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