Topic: DS vs 3DS

Sooo PS2 +2 for KH PS3 0 for Uncharted?? That's the way I see it in your DS /3DS situation

I have to correct myself there. I did not give the 3DS a zero total, I said it got 0 points for that one case.

Oh ok that makes sense now, sorry that REALLLLY confused me

You're math is incorrect. +2 is not a negative for the other team. When you play sports, do you deduct points for every point side the other side gets? No. When I score a basket, I only add two points to my team's score, the other side's points stay the same until they score a basket.

And by better in that completely out of context quote you just made, I meant the DS was better off. Not better than the 3DS necessarily, just improved in general.
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To put it, no you don't deduct points, but the other team is in the lead. Let's put it this way. Think of any game where you can both gain and lose points.
Score is 5-5

You gain a point: 6-5
Other team loses a point: 5-4

Either way, you've made it into the lead.

And that wasn't out-of-context in the least. You're still saying the exact same thing, that the DS has some sort of gain for lacking games, when that shouldn't be a judgement.

Say I despise Uncharted but love the other PS3 exclusive franchises like LBP, the TGC trilogy, Ratchet and Clank, etc;
I'm not going to say that the Xbox gains points for not having Uncharted. I'm going to judge it based on the games I like, not give it points for not having a game I don't.

And seriously, insulting a person's intelligence isn't the best way to make your point clear.

i think this bears repeating. I hope we've all gotten that nastiness out of our systems now and can move back to the original topic, yes? :/

Okay, I saw some funny images, so I'm in a better mood now...but still, I gotta say it:

_{no, you don't. knock it off. final warning — TBD}

Well, that was sorta anticlimactic, but whatever.

And still, my point of view is thus far the DS has a better library, but its had 7 years ahead of the 3DS and the limitations of the system have actually made me feel very few games struck me as deep and so many games lacked analog control. Compared to nearly every 3DS must-have, which both have the analog control I wanted (Mario, Kingdom Hearts) and in general the games feel deeper then anything on the DS (MPH vs. Kid Icarus)

How is Kid Icarus Uprising deeper than Metroid Prime Hunters? Personally, I think Uprising would be better compared to Custom Robo Arena, a third year DS game, as they both feature 3rd person shooter gameplay frequently.

@I-U
I think the intensity system and weapon stat system automatically give it more depth than Prime Hunters, and the achievements didn't hurt. The main campaign, if you can adapt to it's controls and if you enjoy cheesy dialogue is an absolute blast, worth all the replaying the intensity system brings.

That isn't to say that it's necessarily the better game, but I think it's pretty fair to call it the "deeper" of the two.

Well, I saw MGSolid, PS All Stars, Killzone, Silent Hill, etc. games like that, but it's not worth paying for the system for 5 games, when I have 50+ on 3DS. I guess I could have had gotten a PS Vita to go with my PS3, but I see PS Vita being heavily tied to PS3 as its main appeal. 3DS acts independently from home consoles for the most part except for multiplatform games.
3DS:
Wi-Fi/Spotpass
More games
3D
SD cards
3D cameras and face camera
2 screens

The only features I think PS vita has over 3DS is 3G capabilities(that you have to pay for so maybe not), and better graphics.

Deeper as in it contains more content. When you finished the campaign of MPH, you were done with it. Kid Icarus had loads of achievements, difficulty scale, unlockables, and the level-based system made it a lot more easy to replay. Metroid was less linear yet the campaign length was about the same (MPH took maybe 2 hours more). Due to the replay value, I've clocked in 7 times the amount of hours thus far in Kid Icarus.

The multiplayer is a mixed bag for both. Kid Icarus has a paltry map selection (10 (12 in local) vs 26) and less game modes. But it has WPA support and far more customization in weapons (7 characters vs 107 weapons all with one generic character). Still, I'll give the edge to MPH.

Back to the original point, it's simple to tell by looking at the menus for both.

Are we not considering the atmosphere, story, environment variation, gameplay variation and strategy of Metroid Prime Hunters? I think that game has Kid Icarus Uprising beat out in all of those categories. I figured the intensity system and weapon creation would be mentioned, and so do agree that those gave Kid Icarus Uprising quite a bit of depth compared to most of the 3DS's library. I don't believe those features made it deeper than Hunters though.

Yeah... That's not what I meant by depth. I basically meant "content and lasting appeal overall". MPH has one of the deepest campaigns on the DS, but it's still relatively optionless. Once you beat MPH, you're done with single-player. Kid Icarus still has loads after the campaign.

The first 3 aren't what I meant at all. Those I'd include in graphics and such (and even ignoring power I'd prefer Kid Icarus, as there's not much else like it on any Nintendo system while the console Metroid games beat out MPH for sure). The last 2 I'd include in gameplay. Not what I meant by depth again.

Kid Icarus had atmosphere, story, environment, environment variation, gameplay variation, and strategy too. I can't say MP is deeper because it has them. Even if it "has it beat" (which is a complete opinion, even when we factor in the distinct personality and uniqueness of every character in Uprising) that isn't saying much for the depth of the game.

Well I would have to go with the 3DS right now but thats because I really didnt play many DS games during the DS lifespan. I think the only games I played during the DS lifespan was Dawn of Sorrow, Children of Mana and Nintendogs. So far during the 3DS era I have played SM3DL, NSMB2, MK 7, and Resident Evil Revelations, and Epic Mickey Power of Illusion. On top of that I am waiting and wanting to get Code of Princess, Castlevania LoS, and Luigi's Mansion Dark of the Moon. However I have discovered plenty of DS gems that I missed during the DS era as well games like Tetris DS, Phoenix Wright and Castlevania: PoR. But if it wasn't for my 3DS I would have never gone back to the DS library thats why the 3DS gets my vote.

PlayStation Plus; PlayStation Network (Music Unlimited and Movies, not just games there); Social apps (Twitter, Facebook, Flickr); PlayStation Mobile, PSP and PSOne classics.

I sincerely doubt you've actually researched the Vita in any depth. The hint for me was that anyone who has realised it's an exceptional console with a very healthy (an unfortunately unknown) library.

@waltz if one person doesn't like a Vita does it matter? It's his opinion, some people like 3DS more

Can we not turn this into yet another Vita vs. The World thread, please? ffs It was just starting to get back on track in here :/

I don't care what he thinks about the Vita. But he should at least get his facts right.

Anyway, in deference to TBD Ima gonna stop now.