i think anybody that supports this silly peripheral that can be used only for one or a few games, either works for nintendo and gets paid to comment positively or doesnt want to believe that Nintendo IS capable of making mistakes. eg. Virtual Boy
It's not just people working at Nintendo supporting the 3DS. Konami and Capcom are both releasing two incredible games in February. The 3DS is the most exciting handheld to come out in a long time. Your Virtual Boy parallel doesn't hold water.
And as far as making mistakes, $250 drops to $170. Ambassadors Program? Ambassador = idiots who bought it too early before Nintendo realized that they made a mistake program.
Why can't you appreciate the Ambassador Program? Years back when Nintendo came out with the GBA SP. Early GBA owners didn't get squat. Whether or not you enjoy the Ambassador Program, any real gamer can see that Nintendo is giving you more now than they ever have before.
@mushroomer - If you're this upset about how Nintendo has handled the 3DS's first year, I am clueless as to why you are a still a Nintendo gamer. Obviously, Nintendo made and has paid/is paying the price for decisions it made like whether or not it needed the 2nd Circle Pad, the system's pricing, letting 3rd parties lead the way with its launch, and making nice nice with their customers who took the plunge. From the way you're talking, the best option for you might be to sell your 3DS and everything you have with it and use that money towards a PS Vita pre-order, as that system's launch looks like it will be perfect in every way without anything being overpriced or something like that; I'm sure Nintendo wouldn't mind losing one customer because it messed up and is trying to rectify the situation.
Well, this whole thing to me is an after thought.. a big whooops.. not a smart move in any way.. and i think anybody that supports this silly peripheral that can be used only for one or a few games, either works for nintendo and gets paid to comment positively or doesnt want to believe that Nintendo IS capable of making mistakes. eg. Virtual Boy and like mentioned above, DS Rumble Pack. Remember, this is not a home console like the Wii where addons like the balance board are welcomed. This is just adding a simple button scheme that SHOULD have been included with the system if they thought ahead to the functionality of Monster Hunter and games that would benefit from it. Its a big afterthought and thus a big mistake in my humble opinion.
I get paid $20000 for talking about how great the Circle Pad Pro is! It's amazing!!! Also, Nintendo is perfect and never made a mistake!! You're the fool who thinks otherwise!!
mushroomer wrote:
Honestly, we should as fans of nintendo, either boycott the item because we should proclaim that this should have been a included function. So that they get the message and not remake the same mistake for the next generation. As a further step, we should also sue them or tell the better business bureau of a bad business practice to try and sell items to customers to squeeze more money out of them without knowing ahead of time.
Boycott? That's a fancy term for "If you don't like it, don't buy it." Again, only a few games need it. I don't think it's a mistake.
Also, sue them? Please do and let me know how it goes
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Same with the wii motion plus. That is something that should have shipped with the original system. Not a 20 dollar extra addon for people who bought into it too early.
It came out 2+ years after the Wii did. Technology improves as years pass. Should Apple release the latest iPod right away rather than new models every few years? Should PS Move have been included with the PS3? I don't think so.
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And as far as making mistakes, $250 drops to $170. Ambassadors Program? Ambassador = idiots who bought it too early before Nintendo realized that they made a mistake program.
Oh noes, I is stupid for buying at launch. Well if being smart means no cool games, then I prefer to be an idiot. Btw, you may as well call all people who buy electronics when they first come out idiots!
I'm definitely in the camp that thinks Nintendo should have found a way to build a second analogue stick in. For now i'm fine with it because the games in their present state work competantly without it, but as more genres like FPS are introduced for the 3DS, i'd like to think a second generation 3DS will address this issue. I'm not a fan of the stylus for aiming but at the same time not desperate enough to need to buy the peripheral. But yeah, some unmet potential here indeed.
I want Nintendo to make a great system with battery-life longer than its previous systems. I also want them to make an aesthetically beautiful system that makes sense and doesnt make you say, why didnt they just do that in the first place..
So go buy a Vita then.
I would recommend refraining from calling anyone stupid when in the same post you suggest suing Nintendo over something so petty and to top things off demonstrate that you have no idea what actually constitutes "bad business."
Because I'm a 3DS ambassador, and I can guarantee you I'm not stupid enough to have those ideas.
I've said it before and will again: there will be no redesign featuring a second analog slider.
Once again, you have to realize the full conditions: the CPP doesn't just add a slider, it also adds (1) bulk so that you can grip it like a dual-analog gamepad, and (2) an extra row of shoulder buttons.
You can't simply stick a new slider on the current 3DS and make it compatible with CPP-enabled games. Backwards compatibility with all of these would be broken if you didn't also add the extra row of shoulder buttons, and Nintendo wouldn't do that because it would bulk up the slim, portable device into something gargantuan. The whole point of the CPP is to make that traditional style of play possible for those who want it for long play sessions, but primarily within the home. It makes the system decidedly un-portable, and would do so even if you incorporated those new buttons and slider in a redesign.
The most you'll ever see is maaaaybe a 3DS-XL featuring the CPP built-in. You won't see it in the primary redesigns, I guarantee.
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(Disclaimer: this is my opinion and I an not in any way trying to represent it as fact. You'd be surprised at the number of people who won't understand that until it's explicitly written out.) I think that Nintendo honestly believed that a second circle pad wasn't necessary even after the 3DS was released (and that they didn't omit it just because of space constraints.) Capcom probably told them that they needed a second circle pad to get Monster Hunter on the 3DS, and since MH is such a big seller in Japan, Nintendo agreed. I'm also guessing that the CPP was not made for the other games that support it (like RE:Revelations); instead CPP support was added to those games because there was no reason not to. In other words, this is what Nintendo were probably thinking: "Well, since we already agreed to make the CPP, we might as well have some other games support it."
If the 3DS has not been discontinued SM3DL and MK7 are awesome games, but if the 3DS has been discontinued Sony has taken over the world.It is not true that both Sony has taken over the world and SM3DL and MK7 are not awesome games.Therefore:Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 are...
(Disclaimer: this is my opinion and I an not in any way trying to represent it as fact. You'd be surprised at the number of people who won't understand that until it's explicitly written out.) I think that Nintendo honestly believed that a second circle pad wasn't necessary even after the 3DS was released (and that they didn't omit it just because of space constraints.) Capcom probably told them that they needed a second circle pad to get Monster Hunter on the 3DS, and since MH is such a big seller in Japan, Nintendo agreed. I'm also guessing that the CPP was not made for the other games that support it (like RE:Revelations); instead CPP support was added to those games because there was no reason not to. In other words, this is what Nintendo were probably thinking: "Well, since we already agreed to make the CPP, we might as well have some other games support it."
You deserve my "post of the year" award
Like wariowoods said, there was NOT enough room for the CPP's features. There was more than just the slider and no, there was no room in that corner for the slider. I recommend looking deeper into the CPP before making ridiculously stupid remarks about it.
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Anyway, when a game comes out that interests me (Monster Hunter 3G), I'll get a CPP. Until then I'll save my money for something actually worth having.
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I recommend looking deeper into the CPP before making ridiculously stupid remarks about it.
Excuse me, would you mind clarifying what these "ridiculously stupid remarks" are? I never said that space constraints were not a factor in the omission of a second circle pad, I was just saying that in my opinion they weren't the only reason. If Nintendo had thought that a second circle pad was necessary and space constraints were the only problem, they would simply have made the 3DS bigger to fit the second pad in. I was also giving a possible reason why Nintendo made the CPP if they seriously believed that a second circle pad wasn't necessary. I recommend reading my comment more carefully before making ridiculously stupid remarks about it.
If the 3DS has not been discontinued SM3DL and MK7 are awesome games, but if the 3DS has been discontinued Sony has taken over the world.It is not true that both Sony has taken over the world and SM3DL and MK7 are not awesome games.Therefore:Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 are...
I recommend looking deeper into the CPP before making ridiculously stupid remarks about it.
Excuse me, would you mind clarifying what these "ridiculously stupid remarks" are? I never said that space constraints were not a factor in the omission of a second circle pad, I was just saying that in my opinion they weren't the only reason. If Nintendo had thought that a second circle pad was necessary and space constraints were the only problem, they would simply have made the 3DS bigger to fit the second pad in. I was also giving a possible reason why Nintendo made the CPP if they seriously believed that a second circle pad wasn't necessary. I recommend reading my comment more carefully before making ridiculously stupid remarks about it.
I don't think they were arguing with you. Pretty sure they agreed with what you said, and then just stated that bit on the end to put their point against other posts in the thread, not yours (unless I'm mistaken myself).
Oh, and to put what I think across (not directly related to what anyone said), I'll be getting my Circle Pad Pro when I get my copy of Resident Evil: Revelations. It's definitely not necessary for it or pretty much any other game that is currently on the 3DS or will ever be on the 3DS, but it's nice and cheap when bundled with Revelations and could come handy in the future if I ever wanted it so might as well. The 3DS doesn't need this thing, it's just an extra option for whoever wants to use it, and more options are good so everyone should stop complaining about it.
I recommend looking deeper into the CPP before making ridiculously stupid remarks about it.
Excuse me, would you mind clarifying what these "ridiculously stupid remarks" are? I never said that space constraints were not a factor in the omission of a second circle pad, I was just saying that in my opinion they weren't the only reason. If Nintendo had thought that a second circle pad was necessary and space constraints were the only problem, they would simply have made the 3DS bigger to fit the second pad in. I was also giving a possible reason why Nintendo made the CPP if they seriously believed that a second circle pad wasn't necessary. I recommend reading my comment more carefully before making ridiculously stupid remarks about it.
I don't think they were arguing with you. Pretty sure they agreed with what you said, and then just stated that bit on the end to put their point against other posts in the thread, not yours (unless I'm mistaken myself).
The 3DS doesn't need this thing, it's just an extra option for whoever wants to use it, and more options are good so everyone should stop complaining about it.
I agree 100%. All the games which support the CPP also play without it. The touch screen can be used as a substitute for a second circle pad, and it offers a wider range of motion and more precision than any analog stick or slider ever could. The only downside to using the touch screen as a second circle pad is that it's hard to reach the left half of the screen with only your right thumb.
If the 3DS has not been discontinued SM3DL and MK7 are awesome games, but if the 3DS has been discontinued Sony has taken over the world.It is not true that both Sony has taken over the world and SM3DL and MK7 are not awesome games.Therefore:Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 are...
1. this CCP is complete optional and not even released yet
2. no recent commenter got the opportunity to actually test the usefullness of the CCP
3. it just broadens the variety of control and opens the door for different player types ....
im going to test the CCP in revelations, if its useful im gonna keep it, if not well it was at least a try and a wider option. Nobody is forcing you to get stuck on the CCP ....
Seriously? Sue them over an optional peripheral, that's not the solution at all. I think that the stylus works even better than a second circle pad, so I won't be getting a CPP, but I know that some people are happy to see this add on. If you really want dual analog, why not just get a Vita?
I want dual analog because the controls feel a bit smoother for me. But I love Nintendo. I love the 3DS and all it does. I enjoy dual analogs, but that is because of the GCN controller and the Classic Controller.
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