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Topic: Circle Pad Pro - an after thought

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mushroomer

What is Nintendo thinking? That is such a large addon to lug around. Now it wont even fit in my front pocket. I look at the current design of the 3ds and i wonder why they couldnt just lower the abxy like they did the dpad and just place a second one over there!!! I quickly mocked it up. They should have hired me for their product design team. I did this in like 2 seconds.

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Wildvine53

Have you seen the inside of a 3DS, it's packed a second circle pad wouldn't fit.
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mushroomer

Thats why you hire engineers to move things around and possibly make the it a bit thicker to accommodate the space to add it.. also by thickening it by 2 millimeters, you could also add a larger battery and make the 3ds have a longer life than the DS. I mean why are we going backwards with battery life? I'd rather have a slightly thicker 3ds with longer battery life and the second stick than the monstrosity that they are adding to it. BTW, some people have added this to make the batter life longer.. I guess those guys are out of luck if they want to have long battery AND a second 360 stick,
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Also, with as such a huge peripheral, why couldn't they have added batterlife to the whole thing instead only adding a few buttons?

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Wildvine53

Adding a battery extension to the CPP would make the add on more expensive. Nintendo wanted a nice sleek model, not a big bulky one like the original DS. Apparently the CPP was only created to secure Monster Hunter for the 3DS, at least that's what I read.

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Ecto-1

Like Wildvine53 said, the system is packed. That is also why the stylus is in the awkward position it is; it simply wouldn't fit anywhere else. Sure they could of enlarged the system to make more room, but that would also have eliminated its "pocketability" Secondly, no offense, but your mockup looks incredibly uncomfortable to me. I can't imagine being able to play games like Mario Kart for more than a few minutes with that layout. Personally, I like the idea of the shell. It will give people with big hands something extra to grip.

I do agree that I would have liked to have seen them add a small external battery for extending the system's battery life though.

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stromboli

From the review of RE: Revelations, it seems the second stick is not even necessary when you have the gyro and the touch screen etc. They have here another option for those that must have it. Why include it if it's not necessary for most of the games etc. It just adds costs and weight etc. I think the solution of the add-on is actually perfect as long as it's almost free. The complaints of it are some of the most strange ever. I could understand Sony fans being upset that the 3DS is also capable of dual analogue, but I never understood why Nintendo fans would be upset about it. It makes it even more complete if someone wants. You don't need to carry it around like that, you can connect it whenever you want. Sounds perfect to me and a great move by Nintendo, and apparently Capcom.

Not only does the 3DS come with an SD card, but it also happens to come pre-installed with one, additional dimension.

Knux

Of course the Circle Pad Pro is ugly and bulky as eff. It won't fit into a redesign because it'll make the 3DS bulkier, not lighter. This will probably have the same fate as the DS Rumble Pak. I'm going to pass on this for now.

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LzWinky

Yes, put the buttons where the battery is. Brilliant! Who needs a battery anyway?

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SkywardLink98

A second pad isn't even needed when you think about it. It has a touch screen and Gyro controls! They could use the gyro controls to make a pointer-ish based control by making a neutral position and when you tilt it it moves the pointer. Sure a second analog stikc is nice, and very useful but it's a shame to see this happen so early on with the 3DS. I blame the Xbox 360 addicts. No creativity.

My SD Card with the game on it is just as physical as your cartridge with the game on it.
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mushroomer

Well, this whole thing to me is an after thought.. a big whooops.. not a smart move in any way.. and i think anybody that supports this silly peripheral that can be used only for one or a few games, either works for nintendo and gets paid to comment positively or doesnt want to believe that Nintendo IS capable of making mistakes. eg. Virtual Boy and like mentioned above, DS Rumble Pack. Remember, this is not a home console like the Wii where addons like the balance board are welcomed. This is just adding a simple button scheme that SHOULD have been included with the system if they thought ahead to the functionality of Monster Hunter and games that would benefit from it. Its a big afterthought and thus a big mistake in my humble opinion.

Honestly, we should as fans of nintendo, either boycott the item because we should proclaim that this should have been a included function. So that they get the message and not remake the same mistake for the next generation. As a further step, we should also sue them or tell the better business bureau of a bad business practice to try and sell items to customers to squeeze more money out of them without knowing ahead of time.

Same with the wii motion plus. That is something that should have shipped with the original system. Not a 20 dollar extra addon for people who bought into it too early.

And as far as making mistakes, $250 drops to $170. Ambassadors Program? Ambassador = idiots who bought it too early before Nintendo realized that they made a mistake program.

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TeeJay

Look, what's done is done. Are you willing to pay for a whole new system just for an extra button?

Also, do you realize you called half of the members of NLife idiots?

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Wildvine53

Seriously? Sue them over an optional peripheral, that's not the solution at all. I think that the stylus works even better than a second circle pad, so I won't be getting a CPP, but I know that some people are happy to see this add on.
If you really want dual analog, why not just get a Vita?

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mushroomer

What's done is not done. If enough people want change, change can happen. But, thats the catch, people always think, whats done is done.. and thats the end of the story. That is what big companies like Nintendo hope for and pray for that everyone thinks like you.

I want Nintendo to make a great system with battery-life longer than its previous systems. I also want them to make an aesthetically beautiful system that makes sense and doesnt make you say, why didnt they just do that in the first place..

Thats all im asking for. And if they do, to admit it their mistakes.

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TeeJay

You want, you want, you want. Look, nobody's perfect. Get over it and move on. It sounds harsh but there it is.

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Wildvine53

mushroomer wrote:

What's done is not done. If enough people want change, change can happen. But, thats the catch, people always think, whats done is done.. and thats the end of the story. That is what big companies like Nintendo hope for and pray for that everyone thinks like you.

I want Nintendo to make a great system with battery-life longer than its previous systems. I also want them to make an aesthetically beautiful system that makes sense and doesnt make you say, why didnt they just do that in the first place..

Thats all im asking for. And if they do, to admit it their mistakes.

They admitted their mistake, which is why the CPP is coming out and why they went with a price cut. People who want dual analog get dual analog, and there are a few battery add ons to choose from.

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mushroomer

I agree that it is an optional peripheral, but it is also preferred. Or else it wouldnt even be made and distributed. In E3 last year when they unveiled the 3DS and the game line up, they knew then and there that Capcom was making MH for the 3DS. Knowing this, and wanting to support 3rd party games and hopeing for the best system to allow 3rd party games to utilize the full potential of the system, they should have at that moment, gone back to the drawing board, and worked together closely with Capcom and made the 3DS a system that could accomidate Monster Hunter. If I were Nintendo, and I found out Capcom was going to move from psp to ds, i would have done that. and Im sure millions of japanese people including a few from the rest of the world would have really appreciated that!

But they didnt. and now we have this monstrosity. Thats all im saying

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Wildvine53

Well Monster Hunter is playable without the Frankenstick, and people seemed fine playing without a second stick on the PSP. Remember Hindsight is 20/20, if you were on the design team maybe you would understand why they choose to go with a single circle pad.

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ejamer

Wow. Boycotts, lawsuits, BBB, and calling early adopters "idiots".

I'd love better battery life and a second analog stick built-in... but you just might be pushing the boundaries of reason here. Try taking a deep breath to calm down before posting next time.

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Raylax

'Circle Pad Pro is an afterthought that probably should have been on the original console.'

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Knux

mushroomer wrote:

Well, this whole thing to me is an after thought.. a big whooops.. not a smart move in any way.. and i think anybody that supports this silly peripheral that can be used only for one or a few games, either works for nintendo and gets paid to comment positively or doesnt want to believe that Nintendo IS capable of making mistakes. eg. Virtual Boy and like mentioned above, DS Rumble Pack. Remember, this is not a home console like the Wii where addons like the balance board are welcomed. This is just adding a simple button scheme that SHOULD have been included with the system if they thought ahead to the functionality of Monster Hunter and games that would benefit from it. Its a big afterthought and thus a big mistake in my humble opinion.

Honestly, we should as fans of nintendo, either boycott the item because we should proclaim that this should have been a included function. So that they get the message and not remake the same mistake for the next generation. As a further step, we should also sue them or tell the better business bureau of a bad business practice to try and sell items to customers to squeeze more money out of them without knowing ahead of time.

Same with the wii motion plus. That is something that should have shipped with the original system. Not a 20 dollar extra addon for people who bought into it too early.

And as far as making mistakes, $250 drops to $170. Ambassadors Program? Ambassador = idiots who bought it too early before Nintendo realized that they made a mistake program.

Someone is obviously butthurt. The point is that the 3DS couldn't have a second circle pad because it's packed enough as it is. It's an optional accessory that you can use on a few games. It's not required to play those games in the first place. Nintendo can't redesign the 3DS with a second circle pad while making it lighter and increasing the battery life. It's just impossible.

Wii Motion Plus is a lot different. All you have to do is attach the add-on to an existing Wii Remote or buy one that has the technology built in. Wii Motion Plus is actually useful (in Skyward Sword at least). Controller add-ons are a lot different compared to adding extra hardware to a handheld.

Also, good luck on your ''crusade''. I'm sure by calling 3DS launch buyers (including myself) ''idiots'', that you'll gain tons of support.

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