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Topic: ANOTHER $50 ATLUS GAME?!

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Ralizah

I guess my thing is that I don't mind paying premium prices so long as they're for premium products. If Atlus wants to go back to really nice releases that are expensive, I don't mind, but I'm not paying $10 extra for a standard game release. The strategy guide and art box included with SMTIV were worth the price, for me. A few tarot cards aren't.

I'm so disappointed because Atlus does so many things I like. They develop AMAZING RPGs for Nintendo's handheld. They keep their PS2 releases alive with reasonable price points. Some of their PS2 releases were expensive, but they usually included a good deal of bonus stuff with those games.

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CaviarMeths

The Persona Q LE was a big rip too. The Bravely Default LE cost $50, came in a wonderful case and even had a real jewel case for the soundtrack album. The Persona Q LE was everything just thrown in a big box, slipcovers, a lazy artbook, and a case for $30.

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Spoony_Tech

SpookyMeths wrote:

The Persona Q LE was a big rip too. The Bravely Default LE cost $50, came in a wonderful case and even had a real jewel case for the soundtrack album. The Persona Q LE was everything just thrown in a big box, slipcovers, a lazy artbook, and a case for $30.

Yeah but wasn't Nintendo in charge of Bravely's LE. They usually don't get ridiculous With there LE's prices.

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If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.

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Ryno

This isn't Mario that is going to sell a ton of copies. This is a niche game. You want a niche game, you might have to pay a little more for it, at least at first anyway. I see no problem with a publisher charging a little more for a game that is going to sell less. Do you guys not think they have educated people that look long and hard at the pricing? Some of you must think producing video games is cheap and easy. Sorry, but Atlus games weren't that profitable otherwise they would have never had financial issues in the first place. They should do something different to become profitable and therefor motivated to create these niche games.

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Ralizah

It's possible the BD LE was so cheap because it was produced in such limited quantities. Also, people were annoyed about the lack of a statue, even if... that turned out to be a wise decision, due to the statue's quality.

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Spoony_Tech

Ryno wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

Ryno wrote:

You guys are cheap. Actually video gamers have to be one of the cheapest communities. Is inflation supposed to affect everything except for video games?

I understand inflation as much as anybody and if the going trend was a lot of 3ds titles started doing this then I would have to except it but Atlus is the only one doing it and I wont support it.

This isn't Mario that is going to sell a ton of copies. This is a niche game. You want a niche game, you might have to pay a little more for it, at least at first anyway. I see no problem with a publisher charging a little more for a game that is going to sell less. Do you guys not think they have educated people that look long and hard at the pricing? Some of you must think producing video games is cheap and easy. Sorry, but Atlus games weren't that profitable otherwise they would have never had financial issues in the first place. They should do something different to become profitable and therefor motivated to create these niche games.

That's the thing Atlus was never in trouble yo begin with, it was the company that owned them and Atlus was the only one doing anything. Sure Atlus isn't a big name but they are bigger then most companies and I feel they are just using the brand name to do this with because it's not happening with all their games just a select few.

They're releasing the presently announced Etrain Mystery Dungeon and so far all of the Etrain games at 40$ so does that not seem like a little bit of name price gouging?

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MERG said:

If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.

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Ralizah

Ryno wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

Ryno wrote:

You guys are cheap. Actually video gamers have to be one of the cheapest communities. Is inflation supposed to affect everything except for video games?

I understand inflation as much as anybody and if the going trend was a lot of 3ds titles started doing this then I would have to except it but Atlus is the only one doing it and I wont support it.

This isn't Mario that is going to sell a ton of copies. This is a niche game. You want a niche game, you might have to pay a little more for it, at least at first anyway. I see no problem with a publisher charging a little more for a game that is going to sell less. Do you guys not think they have educated people that look long and hard at the pricing? Some of you must think producing video games is cheap and easy. Sorry, but Atlus games weren't that profitable otherwise they would have never had financial issues in the first place. They should do something different to become profitable and therefor motivated to create these niche games.

That logic would work fine... if Atlus games were always more expensive. Also, games like EOIV and Soul Hackers were arguably more niche in their appeal than Persona, yet cost less. So, I fail to see how this addresses the issue at hand.

Also, Index Corp. was the one in trouble. Atlus was dandy, except for having the bad luck of being owned by a troubled corporation. They do well for themselves.

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sinalefa

Ralizah wrote:

It's possible the BD LE was so cheap because it was produced in such limited quantities. Also, people were annoyed about the lack of a statue, even if... that turned out to be a wise decision, due to the statue's quality.

I hated when the LE was sold out on Amazon in December, with the game releasing in February in NA.

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Ralizah

sinalefa wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

It's possible the BD LE was so cheap because it was produced in such limited quantities. Also, people were annoyed about the lack of a statue, even if... that turned out to be a wise decision, due to the statue's quality.

I hated when the LE was sold out on Amazon in December, with the game releasing in February in NA.

I pre-ordered it well ahead of time and almost didn't get it. Reminds me of the issues I had getting my LE watch with Virtue's Last Reward.

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SkywardLink98

Ryno wrote:

You guys are cheap. Actually video gamers have to be one of the cheapest communities. Is inflation supposed to affect everything except for video games?

No, but I don't feel like their product is worth $50. I seldom buy games at launch simply because they're rarely worth what I pay for them. If I think a price is too high I'm allowed to skip the game until later, and I'm allowed to make my feelings known.

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Ryno

Did you guys see the financials of Atlus when it was part of Atlus and know exactly how "great" Atlus was really doing? Again, Atlus games are niche and do not sell that many copies overall. Heaven forbid, a company tries something different by charging a whole $10.00 more to try and be more profitable.

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CaviarMeths

Ryno wrote:

Did you guys see the financials of Atlus when it was part of Atlus and know exactly how "great" Atlus was really doing? Again, Atlus games are niche and do not sell that many copies overall. Heaven forbid, a company tries something different by charging a whole $10.00 more to try and be more profitable.

NIS is niche. Atlus actually has a pretty decent following and get plenty of mainstream recognition. They develop and publish more games per year than Nintendo and most, if not all, are profitable. These 3DS remakes of DS games, Devil Survivor 1 & 2, Etrian Odyssey Untold, definitely wouldn't be happening if the originals weren't successful.

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Spoony_Tech

Ryno wrote:

Did you guys see the financials of Atlus when it was part of Atlus and know exactly how "great" Atlus was really doing? Again, Atlus games are niche and do not sell that many copies overall. Heaven forbid, a company tries something different by charging a whole $10.00 more to try and be more profitable.

Atlus USA themselves came out and said they were doing fine. This is brand name price hiking and nothing more. Why not go across the board and raise the price of all there games not just select ones? Plus when something like this happens it's not very profitable to have so much negative news surrounding your releases. Like I said they lost my 40$ or 50$ because of this and I'm not the only one Either. I won't spend more then 25$ going forward on anymore 50$ games from them regarding the 3ds.

They can do whatever they want as can I. We have a voice and if we don't use it we end up screwed in the long run.

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MERG said:

If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.

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CaviarMeths

Etrian Mystery Dungeon is confirmed $40, by the way.

So Anakin kneels before Monster Mash and pledges his loyalty to the graveyard smash.

Ralizah

Ryno wrote:

Did you guys see the financials of Atlus when it was part of Atlus and know exactly how "great" Atlus was really doing? Again, Atlus games are niche and do not sell that many copies overall. Heaven forbid, a company tries something different by charging a whole $10.00 more to try and be more profitable.

Indeed, in a market economy, it is a consumer's responsibility to vote with his or her dollar. Atlus is losing their way, and it is up to us to correct their behavior by abstaining from rewarding it.

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Ryno

Yeah, and Enron said they were doing fine too. Every business says they are doing fine whether they really are or not. I know you want all the prices to be the same for video games just because, I don't know, its just not fair??? Look, the hard core fans are going to buy this even at the extra $10.00 at or near launch. The people they hired to figure out pricing believe the risk of charging $10 more per sale vs. customers lost is worth it. Is the extra $100,000/10,000 copies sold for charging an additional $10 worth it to make up the difference for those potential customers who will draw a line in the sand, like yourself, that refuse to pay $10 more for a video game? I guess they'll see.

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Blast

So much crying over the price of a game destined get a price cut on Eshop within a 5-6 months of release. Its just $10.00 more... If it bothers you guys that much then truly stop supporting them. Jeez.

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sinalefa wrote:

I still believe asking $50 for Persona Q was pushing it. You don't see Nintendo asking $50 for Pokemon,

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Ryno wrote:

Yeah, and Enron said they were doing fine too. Every business says they are doing fine whether they really are or not. I know you want all the prices to be the same for video games just because, I don't know, its just not fair??? Look, the hard core fans are going to buy this even at the extra $10.00 at or near launch. The people they hired to figure out pricing believe the risk of charging $10 more per sale vs. customers lost is worth it. Is the extra $100,000/10,000 copies sold for charging an additional $10 worth it to make up the difference for those potential customers who will draw a line in the sand, like yourself, that refuse to pay $10 more for a video game? I guess they'll see.

Like I said in a earlier post if this was the growing trend then I couldn't do anything about it and it is what it is but it's o.my Atlus doing it with select titles and there most popular ones at that so it kinda refutes what you're saying about its not Mario. It would be the equivalent of Nintendo pricing Mario at 10$ more just because they can. Like I said they're more then welcome to price it where ever they want and more people like the core fans are saying no so we will see if it's enough. The problem is they will probably just say there is no market for it if sales are week which isn't the case.

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MERG said:

If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.

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Ralizah

Ryno wrote:

Yeah, and Enron said they were doing fine too. Every business says they are doing fine whether they really are or not. I know you want all the prices to be the same for video games just because, I don't know, its just not fair??? Look, the hard core fans are going to buy this even at the extra $10.00 at or near launch. The people they hired to figure out pricing believe the risk of charging $10 more per sale vs. customers lost is worth it. Is the extra $100,000/10,000 copies sold for charging an additional $10 worth it to make up the difference for those potential customers who will draw a line in the sand, like yourself, that refuse to pay $10 more for a video game? I guess they'll see.

"Every business says they are doing fine whether they really are or not."
You sure about that? I don't think Nippon Ichi got the memo: http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/12/10/nippon-ichi-software-r...

Anyhow, Atlus hasn't been known to lie to the public. As such, I don't think 'cuz ENRON' is a terribly compelling argument.

And let's be frank: the people deciding on pricing schemes don't always make the wisest decisions. These are executives, not rocket scientists.
For companies like Atlus, fan appreciation and loyalty is a prized commodity. Will sacrificing that for a mere $10 extra with each sale be in their best long-term interest? I would guess no, but who knows.

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