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Topic: ALBW XL or Wait for New 3DS XL

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iamslovakin

Okay, so I know this question gets asked often but I haven't really seen one specific to mine so here it goes.

I've been debating for a while now on if I should get the ALBW XL or wait for the New 3DS XL.

Only reason I've been debating this is because I'm a big time zelda fan and would love to have that XL. I currently don't own a 3DS so I want to hear opinions on if I should get a limited edition XL or wait for a regular New XL. Are the hardware/ software upgrades worth sacrificing the limited edition aspect of the XL?

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DefHalan

Are you interested in Xenoblade Chronicles 3D?

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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iamslovakin

DefHalan wrote:

Are you interested in Xenoblade Chronicles 3D?

Not really. I mean, I know its an exclusive, but my worry is how many exclusives will come out for it.

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Hy8ogen

If you are an avid gamer who enjoys new titles and also want to try out Nintendo's new stuff, I would highly suggest waiting for the New 3DS. Exclusives will come out for the New 3DS, it's a fact.

Not the mention the Zelda XL is very pricey now. You are paying premium for something that is going to be outdated in a few months (depending on where you live).

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DylanMcGrann

If it were me, I'd wait for the New 3DS, but I'm the sort of person who dislikes the look and aesthetic of limited editions on a personal level. I just don't see an aesthetic embellishment (however nice it may be) outweighing the exclusive features and software afforded to the central experience of the games themselves. Games after all are the central interest and function of the 3DS.

As a Zelda fan, it's also worth considering that the Majora's Mask remake will include some function or content exclusive to the New 3DS. It's been confirmed, but we do not yet know what exactly it will be. It will not change the graphics.

Also, I would be surprised if Nintendo doesn't release a limited edition based on Majora's Mask, considering the number of fans that have been clamoring for a remake. But if they do make a Majora's Mask 3DS, it probably won't have a generic Zelda look with gold, the Triforce, and the like. It would likely be purple and involve images of the moon, concept and cover art, Majora's Mask, and/or the other masks—not exactly traditional Zelda stuff.

I will admit though, as far as limited editions go, the Link Between Worlds 3DS is pretty good.

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iamslovakin

Tainy wrote:

If it were me, I'd wait for the New 3DS, but I'm the sort of person who dislikes the look and aesthetic of limited editions on a personal level. I just don't see an aesthetic embellishment (however nice it may be) outweighing the exclusive features and software afforded to the central experience of the games themselves. Games after all are the central interest and function of the 3DS.

As a Zelda fan, it's also worth considering that the Majora's Mask remake will include some function or content exclusive to the New 3DS. It's been confirmed, but we do not yet know what exactly it will be. It will not change the graphics.

Also, I would be surprised if Nintendo doesn't release a limited edition based on Majora's Mask, considering the number of fans that have been clamoring for a remake. But if they do make a Majora's Mask 3DS, it probably won't have a generic Zelda look with gold, the Triforce, and the like. It would likely be purple and involve images of the moon, concept and cover art, Majora's Mask, and/or the other masks—not exactly traditional Zelda stuff.

I will admit though, as far as limited editions go, the Link Between Worlds 3DS is pretty good.

I might hold out based on the fact that majoras mask might get a limited edition. Every zelda game on the 3ds got a limited edition handheld with it, so I don't see why majoras mask wouldn't.

Waiting for the new 3ds seems more promising now

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IggyZX

Honestly, unless money factor is completely irrelevant, you should wait a few months and get N3DS. It will be more powerful - it's known (from hacked system update) that RAM has been doubled to 256 MB - current 3DS has 128 MB and that VRAM has been upped from 6 to 10 MB. CPU is unknown but it's presumed that it has received 50-100% clock boost.

So we are talking about substantially more powerful hardware, not just a small, meaningless refresh. Nintendo probably did this to breathe new life into 3DS and allow it to follow Wii U until their next home console is ready (since it's rumored that their next home console/handheld will have some kind of interaction).

With this much powerful hardware and Nintendo's desire to push more units, they are bound to create some spectacular titles for it (Xenoblade already looks amazing).

So, try and wait. I'm pretty sure that N3DS US/EU release is about 3 months away.

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19Robb92

I'd definitely wait for the New 3DS XL.

Personally I'm going to wait in hope of a Majoras Mask themed N3DSXL model.

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DefHalan

Not sure where you live but if it is NA you might have to wait close to a year for the New 3DS. Not sure how long you are willing to go without.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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IggyZX

DefHalan wrote:

Not sure where you live but if it is NA you might have to wait close to a year for the New 3DS. Not sure how long you are willing to go without.

Why do you believe it's gonna be a full year? That makes no sense since Nintendo needs to drive sales of N3DS in the west with titles like Majora's Mask (that will have some exclusive N3DS features). I'd say it's gonna be March 2015. at the latest.

IggyZX

Faruko

March 2015 ? not a chance, maybe June 2015

with Pokemon, Smash & MM coming i think the 3DS has enough push for some time, so i guess around May-June 2015. In Japan it was different because they never got the 2DS so they were pretty much stuck with the 3DS XL from more than 2 years ago.

It does depends how much do you want a 3DS nowadays

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sinalefa

If you have waited this long for a 3DS, might as well wait a little more.

If money is not a concern you may even get both. I have two 3DS systems (one an XL) and don't regret it.

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IggyZX

Faruko wrote:

March 2015 ? not a chance, maybe June 2015

with Pokemon, Smash & MM coming i think the 3DS has enough push for some time, so i guess around May-June 2015. In Japan it was different because they never got the 2DS so they were pretty much stuck with the 3DS XL from more than 2 years ago.

It does depends how much do you want a 3DS nowadays

The only reason why Nintendo is holding off N3DS is EU and US is because they plan to clear their existing 3DS stock this holiday season. Once they are done with that, they'll roll out N3DS.

IggyZX

DefHalan

IggyZX wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Not sure where you live but if it is NA you might have to wait close to a year for the New 3DS. Not sure how long you are willing to go without.

Why do you believe it's gonna be a full year? That makes no sense since Nintendo needs to drive sales of N3DS in the west with titles like Majora's Mask (that will have some exclusive N3DS features). I'd say it's gonna be March 2015. at the latest.

NoA still has not announced the system. NoA hasn't even acknowledged that the thing exist. Xenoblade is what will be the driving force for the New 3DS and they probably want it to come out near Xenoblade Chronics X, for advertisement purposes. I am guessing NoA will announce the system at E3 and it will release during the winter.

MM can still have exclusive functionality (just like Smash is going to) and come out before the New 3DS system does.

Edited on by DefHalan

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Caryslan

There's a third option, and that's getting a 2DS. There are alot of good 2DS deals this holiday season, some of which come with Mario Kart and Yoshi's New Island and the systems tend to be 99 bucks, much cheaper then a 3DS XL. The 3DS libary is a very good one, and I think it is worth buying at least a 2DS to play it, even with the New 3DS coming out.

The issue I see is that we don't know anything about the New 3DS's price or if there will be any shortages or technical issues with it coming out the door. Plus, NOA has been very quiet about it. They could very well hold off the New 3DS's release until next holiday season in order to boost their Black Friday and Christmas results.

Unless 3D, the larger screen, or the clam shell design means alot to you, I would say pick up a 2DS on the cheap, enjoy its libary of great software, and when the New 3DS comes out, trade in the 2DS to get it.

I own a 2DS, and its a very good system. Outside of lacking 3D, it has all of the features that the 3DS XL has, making it a very cheap option.

Right now Best Buy has the crystal blue and crystal red 2DS consoles for $99 while the bundles with Mario Kart 7 are $129

That's a general idea of 2DS prices if it helps, although the 2DS tends to go on sale more often then 3DS XL does.

Oh, and I do know that you want the ALBW 3DS XL for Zelda. But I am only suggesting another option with the 2DS.

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IggyZX

DefHalan wrote:

NoA still has not announced the system. NoA hasn't even acknowledged that the thing exist. Xenoblade is what will be the driving force for the New 3DS and they probably want it to come out near Xenoblade Chronics X, for advertisement purposes. I am guessing NoA will announce the system at E3 and it will release during the winter.

MM can still have exclusive functionality (just like Smash is going to) and come out before the New 3DS system does.

Xenoblade is not nearly popular enough to drive hardware sales. You need heavy hitter like MM to do that. I guess we have to agree to disagree

IggyZX

DefHalan

IggyZX wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

NoA still has not announced the system. NoA hasn't even acknowledged that the thing exist. Xenoblade is what will be the driving force for the New 3DS and they probably want it to come out near Xenoblade Chronics X, for advertisement purposes. I am guessing NoA will announce the system at E3 and it will release during the winter.

MM can still have exclusive functionality (just like Smash is going to) and come out before the New 3DS system does.

Xenoblade is not nearly popular enough to drive hardware sales. You need heavy hitter like MM to do that. I guess we have to agree to disagree

I agree on that point, but that doesn't mean within a few months NoA is going to announce the New 3DS, Market it, and release it just so MM can be there with optional enhancements. Xenoblade probably won't drive sales but partnering the marketing with Xenoblade X will help. Plus if Xenoblade is the only exclusive game then the New 3DS is going to be in trouble.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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DefHalan

BinaryFragger wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

NoA still has not announced the system. NoA hasn't even acknowledged that the thing exist. Xenoblade is what will be the driving force for the New 3DS and they probably want it to come out near Xenoblade Chronics X, for advertisement purposes. I am guessing NoA will announce the system at E3 and it will release during the winter.

MM can still have exclusive functionality (just like Smash is going to) and come out before the New 3DS system does.

Nintendo is known for waiting until the last minute to confirm release dates, though. The North American launch date for the DS Lite was confirmed only one month before launch. The DSi had two months.

Nintendo DS Lite
global announcement: January 2006
Japanese launch: March 2006
NA launch announcement: May 2006
NA launch: June 2006

Nintendo DSi
global announcement: October 2008
Japanese launch: November 2008
NA launch announcement: February 2009
NA launch: April 2009

They'res also the 2DS which was announced in August 2013 and released in October. I wouldn't be surprised if NoA finally confirms the New 3DS at E3 with a "it's out next month!" announcement.

I wouldn't be surprised at a E3 announcements and a September Release. But that means the OP has to wait not only for the games that he wants now but also the games release between now and then. I would actually recommend picking up a cheap 2DS now and upgrading when the New 3DS comes out, but it really depends what his financial situation is.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Jmaster

IggyZX wrote:

Honestly, unless money factor is completely irrelevant, you should wait a few months and get N3DS. It will be more powerful - it's known (from hacked system update) that RAM has been doubled to 256 MB - current 3DS has 128 MB and that VRAM has been upped from 6 to 10 MB. CPU is unknown but it's presumed that it has received 50-100% clock boost.

So we are talking about substantially more powerful hardware, not just a small, meaningless refresh. Nintendo probably did this to breathe new life into 3DS and allow it to follow Wii U until their next home console is ready (since it's rumored that their next home console/handheld will have some kind of interaction).

With this much powerful hardware and Nintendo's desire to push more units, they are bound to create some spectacular titles for it (Xenoblade already looks amazing).

So, try and wait. I'm pretty sure that N3DS US/EU release is about 3 months away.

Yeah, no. Doubling clockspeeds and RAM is anything but a substantial upgrade. On paper, it might seem like an enormous jump in power, but in reality it isn't. First of, doubling the clockspeed of a processor doesn't automatically double its performance. Second, even if performance is actually doubled, the actual difference in games would not nearly be enough to call it a true 'successor.' Just look at the PS4 and Xbone, the CPU's performance is estimated to be more than tripled over the last generation, yet developers are complaining that it's not enough. If Nintendo wants an actual, significant jump in hardware they should've stuffed an entirely new SoC in that thing so it can keep up with smartphones at the same pricepoint (or higher, since phone have profit margins handhelds shouldn't have) like the Moto G.
So in short, the actual jump in hardware us tiny, but big enough for Nintendo to force 170 bucks out of us for this poor excuse of a 'successor.'

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Jmaster

IggyZX

Jmaster wrote:

Yeah, no. Doubling clockspeeds and RAM is anything but a substantial upgrade. On paper, it might seem like an enormous jump in power, but in reality it isn't. First of, doubling the clockspeed of a processor doesn't automatically double its performance. Second, even if performance is actually doubled, the actual difference in games would not nearly be enough to call it a true 'successor.' Just look at the PS4 and Xbone, the CPU's performance is estimated to be more than tripled over the last generation, yet developers are complaining that it's not enough. If Nintendo wants an actual, significant jump in hardware they should've stuffed an entirely new SoC in that thing so it can keep up with smartphones at the same pricepoint (or higher, since phone have profit margins handhelds shouldn't have) like the Moto G.
So in short, the actual jump in hardware us tiny, but big enough for Nintendo to force 170 bucks out of us for this poor excuse of a 'successor.'

Let's try to clear something up; the upgrade is substantial in the context of present 3ds specs. I never called N3ds a true successor, nor I said that doubling cpu clock means double the performance. If this upgrade means that 3ds is now powerful enough to run ports of great looking Wii games like Xenoblade, the upgrade is good enough. Nintendo isn't trying to bring 3ds successor with this refresh, they simply want to breathe new life into their handheld. I wouldn't be surprised if we see bunch of Wii ports on it, for example, Skyward Sword and similar games (such games would push massive amount of hardware).

Also, nobody is "forcing" you to buy anything. Regular 3ds will remain supported but there will be a certain number of (probably high end) games which will be exclusive to the new hardware.

IggyZX

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