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HolyMackerel

@JadeGirl UMD sales have been failing since the PSP's release. Remember when they used to sell UMD movies? Yeah. And the PSP has been fraught with piracy too, so while the device might move some numbers, the software sales are very small. Everyone I know who has a PSP has hacked it and downloaded their games for free.

RowdyRodimus wrote:

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. A download has no value whatsoever. At least with physical media you can always see what you spent your money on and if SONY and Steam have shown us anything it's that while it's cheaper for the companies, we see none of the savings as the games are the same price either way.

I've made immense savings through Steam and I love having access to my games on whatever PC I use.

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ray62

RowdyRodimus wrote:

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. A download has no value whatsoever. At least with physical media you can always see what you spent your money on and if SONY and Steam have shown us anything it's that while it's cheaper for the companies, we see none of the savings as the games are the same price either way.

what are u talking a download do has value, ok let me start over u see if u buy a physical copy of a game u can always loose or get it stolen or whatever but with a computer if its not on the device u can always download it again. i know what u meant but physical copys can be a hasle like cds imGIN YOUR FAVORITE GAME GETS SCRATCHED UP, IF IT WAS a download that would never happen. so dont doubt digital download and the forum wasnt meant for digital downloads only i meant they can sell games but shouldnt get rid of the cartrige slot

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JadeGirl

ray62 wrote:

JadeGirl wrote:

I don't just buy Nintendo systems, I'm also a Sony fan Microsoft fan. I have a PSP and I just bought Fat Princess:Fistful of Cake, of course I did not download my internet is just to slow, it takes at least 8 hours just for a dang demo and to download a full game is 12 hours I don't have time to wait that long! My parents work full time, my dad has to go out of state every week I don't see him till the weekend, and my mom goes to work before I wake up and shes not home until 4pm. When she gets home shes tired the only store my brother and I have time to go is gamestop while my mom is at a grocery store, we have no time to go to a place where we can get good WiFi. Also I always carry my systems and games with me so they wont be stolen.

that is verry unfurtunate but nintendo could have a download store in gamestop that u can go to get it downoaded much quicker, but im seriusly confused why is ur computer so slow does it have viruses if so that should be a nintendo problem

I live in a RV Park and the Park provides the WiFi and its really weak. But I must say to download on the DSi is faster than downloading on the PSP, Sony sucks at the downloading ,it takes so long! Hey that's a good idea, downloading games at gamestop that would totally work for my brother and I.

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JadeGirl wrote:

ray62 wrote:

JadeGirl wrote:

I don't just buy Nintendo systems, I'm also a Sony fan Microsoft fan. I have a PSP and I just bought Fat Princess:Fistful of Cake, of course I did not download my internet is just to slow, it takes at least 8 hours just for a dang demo and to download a full game is 12 hours I don't have time to wait that long! My parents work full time, my dad has to go out of state every week I don't see him till the weekend, and my mom goes to work before I wake up and shes not home until 4pm. When she gets home shes tired the only store my brother and I have time to go is gamestop while my mom is at a grocery store, we have no time to go to a place where we can get good WiFi. Also I always carry my systems and games with me so they wont be stolen.

that is verry unfurtunate but nintendo could have a download store in gamestop that u can go to get it downoaded much quicker, but im seriusly confused why is ur computer so slow does it have viruses if so that should be a nintendo problem

I live in a RV Park and the Park provides the WiFi and its really weak. But I must say to download on the DSi is faster than downloading on the PSP, Sony sucks at the downloading ,it takes so long! Hey that's a good idea, downloading games at gamestop that would totally work for my brother and I.

Thank u Jade Girl

ray62

Not_a_Tapir

LuWiiGi wrote:

Sometime in the future there will be a console with enough memory to handle hundreds of huge games. I think Microsoft will be the first to make one.

Sorry, I had to make an account just to point out the genius of this guy's subtle humour. Made me genuinely laugh.

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There is no denying that Digital Distribution, DLC and Digital Stores are the future not only in countries like North America and Japan but for the entire world. Circuit City has closed it doors and become an online store. Amazon and Overstock.com are fine examples of online stores and I don't think it takes a rocket scientist or an algebra teacher to calculate and figure out that Steve Jobs has proven that "The Cloud" system is the way to go with his incredible Apple App Store and iTunes Online Store and then of course there is the honorable XBOX Live and XBOX Live Marketplace and lest we forget, GameStop is venturing even deeper into the emerging age of Digital Distribution with their new Power Up Rewards Pro Card system.

Of course we know that Nintendo has learned from the mistakes of SONY with the instant change from physical to digital with the PSPgo; yet it is quite vital to note that it was not actually the complete abandonment of the UMD that caused the near death experience for the very attractively designed PSPgo but rather the lack of transferability of content from the old school PSP to the futuristic PSPgo. I really like the PSPgo and I believe with my whole mind in that Digital Distribution is the future and Steven Jobs, Bill Gates, Satoru Iwata and almost everyone at Wired Magazine have all praised "The Cloud" and stated that DLC and Digital Distribution is the way to go.

It is also worth our notice that Mr. Iwata went out of his way to discuss the "digital wireless" and almost WiiConnect 24/ Apple App Store nature of the Nintendo 3DS and let us not forget about the new service known as Nintendo Zone which is basically Nintendo's answer to XBOX Live and a move over the Sony PlayStation Network. All of this points to the fact that the 3DS will indeed embrace the era of Digital Distribution while cautiously not alienating those who feel comfortable with physical media and are not yet ready to snuggle up with the new Digital Internet Media method of App Stores and DLC. The Nintendo DSi has already proven that Nintendo is ready to join the Digital Distribution arena with the DSiShop and while the 3DS will utilize cartridges Nintendo has made it clear on various internet news sites and in Nintendo Power magazine that the Nintendo 3DS will be very much an online handheld console that will be just as Digital Media based as the Kindle and iPod touch. In fact Shigeru Miamoyato and Satoru Iwata have made it clear that they have been studying Steve Jobs's approach to DLC and Digital Distribution with iTunes and the Apple App Store and that they also admire and like the Kindle and have put all those aspects of the Kindle and the Apple App Store into the Nintendo 3DS.

I for one think that Digital Distribution is FAR greener and better on mankind, the environment and the planet as a whole. It's so very frustrating to have to lug UMD's, DVD's, cartridges and CD's everywhere you go. In my opinion a handheld computer like the Nintendo 3DS, Palm, Zune, iPod Touch and PSPgo should always be about comfort and ease of use.

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@TokyoRed: lol, when the 3DS allows me to write and read word documents/.txt files on it straight out the box and when I can link it directly to other computers to transfer documents/files (whether via wired or wireless connection), i'll consider it a handheld computer. until then, it's just a game console. :3

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I never want games to be download only. Game discs that can hold a tb (and that's only now in the develpmont stage they can do that!) are being made and with my internet i don't want to wait 46 full days to play my game i bought. And the 3ds would be able to hold what 16gb? That only 8 games. If nintendo did that I'd buy a psp go!! (Sarcasm )

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JadeGirl

Marzipaz wrote:

I never want games to be download only. Game discs that can hold a tb (and that's only now in the develpmont stage they can do that!) are being made and with my internet i don't want to wait 46 full days to play my game i bought. And the 3ds would be able to hold what 16gb? That only 8 games. If nintendo did that I'd buy a psp go!! (Sarcasm )

I totally agree. I don't want to wait days for a game I bought. I want it right now and then!

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Assuming that it takes me an hour to shower, dress, make my way to a game shop, browse and buy a game (hopefully it's in stock!) make my way back home, and then play it.

Compare to popping online in no time, heading into the Sony digital download shop, where the games are always in stock, purchasing a game (perhaps seeing photos/ footage or playing a demo beforehand), and then downloading it IN THE BACKGROUND while I play something else (I know the Wii can't do that, but the more advanced consoles can), and this is the approximate breakdown.

Time lost buying a retail game: 1 hour (possibly more if the game I want isn't in stock)
Time lost buying a digital downloadable game: 5 minutes (and despite having only a mid-speed connection, even a 1 GB game only takes a hour or so to download, even if I'm inclined not to take advantage of the download in background feature).

Sorry guys, but even in its infancy, a non-Nintendo digital downloadable service utterly annilhiates the retail shopping experience. And even Nintendo's DLC shopping is better than retail, it's just not as much so.

Machu

mmm, a shower and shopping, that sounds nice

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theblackdragon

lol, your game shops must be nowhere near your stores, then, Waltz... i can be in and out of a GameStop in five minutes with exactly what I wanted and on to the store i actually needed to go to (in the same plaza, no less), and that's only if the store I needed to go to (Wal-Mart or Target or whatev') didn't have that particular game in stock themselves. (I can also swing by the fast-food place next door to it on the way back to my truck, lol.) and perhaps better yet, I don't have to worry about my download being interrupted by crappy internets or my husband messing around with the network and not telling me, lol.

Marzipaz brings up a good point too -- games are getting larger and larger as the generations progress. until handhelds are able to accommodate large files on their own with ease (switching out SD cards or memory sticks? you may as well be using cartridges/discs, y'know) and internet connections are at the speeds required to more easily facilitate my downloading of large game files, I can't say that I'm too interested in games that would have been retail becoming download-only.

and i just love that new-game smell... the sound of crinkling shrink-wrap... the cool, smooth feel of a fresh, crisp manual in my hands. god bless retail games :3

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PunnyGuy wrote:

Ditto! Welcome to Nintendo Life, Not_a_Tapir!

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edhe

WaltzElf wrote:

...Time lost buying a retail game: 1 hour (possibly more if the game I want isn't in stock)
Time lost buying a digital downloadable game: 5 minutes (and despite having only a mid-speed connection, even a 1 GB game only takes a hour or so to download...

You're lucky. It takes me 8 hours to download a Gigabyte of data on my connection, except my line regularly faulters and drops even lower. This is the case for many living in my county or even the neighbouring county (Both rural).

And BT (our Telephone/Internet provider) aren't going to do a damn thing about it.

I do see the charms of download media, in that it reduces clutter and would seek to put all my retro games onto a series of devices (given the opportunity) and Steam is a very good model for downloadable games, but like i said, some people need to be accounted for in terms of their download speed and even though money has changed hands, you still don't own the game.

Incidentally, it probably takes me longer to get into my local city to purchase a game if I have to wait for an equally poor bus service that only travels twice a day, but I also have amazon at my disposal if I was keen enough to get a game.

TokyoRed wrote:

...and I don't think it takes a rocket scientist or an algebra teacher to calculate and figure out that Steve Jobs has proven that "The Cloud" system is the way to go with his incredible Apple App Store and iTunes Online Store

I don't know what you mean about the cloud system and Apple App Store/ iTunes online, but I saw a report which looked at cloud gaming which I interpreted as saying that cloud system works by sending the input to that distant server (as you control your character), while the distant server sends the on screen result back to you. You'd need a tip-top Internet speed to achieve this and the people at the show admitted that without that, you'd experience lag, because the signal has further to travel.

But with cloud gaming there's one fundamental difference. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most models being considered are online subscription based - you don't purchase them in any sense.

I think insertable media cannot die - for the sake of game retailers, trading games in, lending to friends or (if Nintendo doesn't ruin it for us) playing import games that aren't released in Europe (or Australia, Waltz - I know your territory is often overlooked in this sense), but I'd like to see these other models embraced alongside the current system - at least to ensure gaming is easier and more appealing to more people like yourselves.

A final footnote - anyone own an iPod touch/phone? Have you browsed a random game's review sometimes and seen several posts saying how buggy the game is and that 2 years on, the developer still hasn't patched it? Yes, retail games are sometimes shipped with game breaking bugs, but getting a refund with it (or even discretely handing it into a secondhand shop and cutting your losses) is much less complicated.

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Not_a_Tapir

edhe wrote:

You're lucky. It takes me 8 hours to download a Gigabyte of data on my connection, except my line regularly faulters and drops even lower.

Incidentally, it probably takes me longer to get into my local city to purchase a game if I have to wait for an equally poor bus service that only travels twice a day, but I also have amazon at my disposal if I was keen enough to get a game.

And how long does Amazon take? Mostly when I buy a game it takes 2- 8 days to arrive, depending on whether or not it's imported. Steam games take 5-6 hours max. And I do also have to point out, you are in a very small minority regarding your internet situation. Even in reasonably small country towns in Australia (our internet is worse than yours) you can get fast-ish ADSL/ADSL2+ connections.

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edhe

Not_a_Tapir wrote:

And how long does Amazon take? Mostly when I buy a game it takes 2- 8 days to arrive, depending on whether or not it's imported. Steam games take 5-6 hours max. And I do also have to point out, you are in a very small minority regarding your internet situation.

Firstly, I currently have Left for Dead 2 on my steam list. It's 7.3GB, I've just started the download and it will take 21 hours (it keeps fluctuating actually - it's currently at 11 hours, but I can realistically expect [to have time to download] a Gigabyte a day).
That's 21 hours straight so I could split that up over several days. Also, I must consider my Internet connection fluctuating from its current 40kb/s down to 17kb/s or even 815bytes/sec. It's really that bad. I'd aim for a Gigabyte a day, making it 8 days.

Assuming i ordered it on a weekday, I could buy and receive that same game in about 2 days.

Secondly, while I am in the minority, I'm still valued as a Nintendo customer, and that article I pointed out states that users in Norfolk (7th most populous county in England) and Suffolk (31st most populous) were struggling to even get the advertised speeds. This cannot be unique to my county (or it's neighbour).

Not_a_Tapir wrote:

Even in reasonably small country towns in Australia (our internet is worse than yours) you can get fast-ish ADSL/ADSL2+ connections.

Overall, maybe. But in Rural England (especially Norfolk) we have it pretty bad. While this article states that the upgrade isn't happening this summer (summer passed), a TV report had a BT correspondant state the will not be doing anything about it in the foreseeable future.

But we're talking about 3DS here. What size would you say is a reasonable size for a handheld game?

If it's too big, I'd think Nintendo would do good to keep selling physical media alongside digital media - at least to please those who, like yourself are able to embrace it.

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edhe wrote:

But we're talking about 3DS here. What size would you say is a reasonable size for a handheld game?

1-2gb?

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