Topic: 3DS processsing power. How close to the wii can it get.

Alright i was looking at the video for resident evil revleation and for metal gear solid. Alright both of those games have Gamecube quality graphics and are running 3d which means the image is being rendered twice. So if you were to make a 3DS game not using 3d the extra power that would be used for the 3D could be used to get wii level graphics right.

I know, this system has great graphics, I couldn't believe in the game trailers how better this is from past ds or psp systems.

I know gaminguy, it's amazing. The graphics on the 3DS are very much indeed like those of the Wii. According to the 3DS review on wired.com the graphics of PilotWings Resort, Animal Crossing 3DS and Paper Mario 3DS, Kid Icarus: Uprising are even better than those of the Wii. You know I'm highly anticipating the final release date.

Here's the 3DS graphics equation...
Wii+iPad+((PS3+XBox 360)x0.60)=GamecubexGamecube=Wii and then some=3DS

Wow it all makes sense now. Every religion is wrong! (i hope you get the joke or don't hit me with a stick)

I still don't think it looks much better than PSP games, but that's a good thing as the system isn't even out yet.
I imagine at best it'll look like Gamecube games or lazy Wii games (Like Animal Crossing) though it will "seem" better because the screen is smaller. Which isn't a bad thing at all, but I honestly don't think we'll get games that look even remotely like TP or Galaxy 2.

For RE5 I'd hardly compare the two, as for the Gamecube, I know the cube can look better than that. I'm actually surprised how bad that looks. lol But I guess it's a valid comparison.

Either way I guess wondering is pointless until we know all the internal hardware for the 3DS. At least it'll probably be the best looking handheld when it comes out regardless, unless Sony has something up it's sleeve.

Nice comparisons

Thank you for clearing up the record my friend. Those images you posted are indeed why so many developers have jumped on the 3DS band wagon with such enthusiasm. On the current DS Lite and even the DSi a game like Metal Gear Solid or Kid Icarus would have been impossible but with the technology of today things have changed.

All one has to do is look at the footage of Kid Icarus: Uprising and Metal Gear Solid 3DS to see that the proof is in the pudding.

Even Warren Spector who is a video game icon has stated that the graphics of the Nintendo 3DS are far superior to those of both the PSP and iPod Touch and we all know that the iPod Touch graphics are good (Zenonia anyone?), so if the graphics of the 3DS are better than both the PSP and iPod Touch there is no room for argument because we all know the 3DS is going to be more than a revolution. Developers who have commented on the 3DS have also said that it's graphics are superior to those of the Game Cube.

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Then again, graphics aren't everything, right? It's the gameplay that matters. Besides, I think that the 3DS screenshots and footage look a lot closer to Wii than GameCube! I think that a few even surpass the Wii entirely. I also think that, graphically, a 3DS Mario Galaxy game is possible!

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Damn, I cant wait anymore!

Keep it together Man!......We all must wait for this......God like Headheld called The 3D-Gameboy.

Im trying make shakes Im trying....

Okay the shear process power of the 3DS is likely worse than the Wii. But almost exclusively because the 3DS has shader support, it has better graphics than Wii. The Wii only had TEV and the only people that used that thing was Factor 5, Rare, and Nintendo. So you should expect excellent graphics on 3DS.

Shader support is HUGE. It is.

This. Never underestimate smoothing and texture effects. The GC andd Wii's graphical problems primarily come from the TEV pipelines being so underused. A good part of that is 3 years after the Wii was introduced, companies are still doing the same port for PS2 and Wii.

As for the resolution, the Wii has to render 640x480 while the 3DS does 400x240 per eye. That works out to 307K pixels for the Wii and only 192K pixels for the 3DS. Toss in the bottom screen and you get another 76K pixels for a grand total of 268K pixels. So even in the worst case,the 3DS doesn't have to work nearly as hard as the Wii.

ign had an article that actually answered a few of these questions-

"Developers working on the system say that if they were developing a 3DS game that didn't use 3D, they could theoretically use the extra processing power for additional texture passes and more complex object and environment geometry, or even up a framerate from 30 frames per second to 60."

that means the 3DS is capable of looking even better than what we've seen so far, but at the cost of 3D. the real question is how much it matters; of course the 3DS is capable of producing much better 2D shots than the ones we've been seeing, but the benefits of 3D almost certainly outweigh the extra power you'd get by disabling the effect, so it's kind of irrelevant.

"Several developers that have experienced 3DS in its current form have reported, off the record, that it has processing capabilities that exceed the Nintendo Wii, and with 3D shaders they can make games that look close to current generation visuals on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 on the lower resolution screens."

no arguing with that one. it's pretty clear that in most regards the 3DS is miles ahead of the wii. it seems to be lacking polygons and what not, but if the shots we've seen so far are anything to go on, the 3DS has the greater abilities overall.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1094930p1.html