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zezhyrule

41. Posted:

Yeah I don't think y'all get it. It basically just takes away the "points" part. There are still cards you can buy in stores that will put money in it just like the point cards used to. Just instead of 2000 points in the store, you'll have $20.00.

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42. Posted:

WhoKnew wrote:

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...No. Just no. :'(

This^

Region lock and awful battery life I could deal with, but not being able to spend my Ninty points in the e-shop is just crazy.

Not buying!! :x

...Instead of buying Nintendo Points, just buy the eShop Cards. And you have a Wii right?

Wait wait wait, rewind. eShop Cards, eh? What be those? :O

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43. Posted:

From the first post...

Terra wrote:

On top of this, there will also be Prepaid cards available from retailers in a similar format to what we see already with iTunes and the PSN.

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44. Posted:

Fans just can't be pleased. What's wrong with getting rid of Nintendo points?

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Fans just can't be pleased. What's wrong with getting rid of Nintendo points?

Nothing. It's just a decision that the company made, meaning that half of us celebrate it as the best thing ever, half of us scream about it being the start of Nintendo's downfall, and we all end up buying the system anyway.

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46. Posted:

WhoKnew wrote:

cheapogamer4life wrote:

GameLord08 wrote:

...No. Just no. :'(

This^

Region lock and awful battery life I could deal with, but not being able to spend my Ninty points in the e-shop is just crazy.

Not buying!! :x

...Instead of buying Nintendo Points, just buy the eShop Cards. And you have a Wii right?

Ah, but you can transfer points between systems.

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47. Posted:

Chicken Brutus wrote:

lz20XX wrote:

Fans just can't be pleased. What's wrong with getting rid of Nintendo points?

Nothing. It's just a decision that the company made, meaning that half of us celebrate it as the best thing ever, half of us scream about it being the start of Nintendo's downfall, and we all end up buying the system anyway.

now why you gotta be bringin' the earth logic up into this thread? no one wants to hear that :(

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48. Posted:

TokyoRed wrote:

WhoKnew wrote:

cheapogamer4life wrote:

GameLord08 wrote:

...No. Just no. :'(

This^

Region lock and awful battery life I could deal with, but not being able to spend my Ninty points in the e-shop is just crazy.

Not buying!! :x

...Instead of buying Nintendo Points, just buy the eShop Cards. And you have a Wii right?

Ah, but you can transfer points between systems.

No you can't

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49. Posted:

At least people will now see in dollars how much of a rip off Nintendo's digital pricing is. lol

Also not having the shop ready at launce is DUUUUUUMB and also makes me believe this system is being rushed. I mean the browser won't be ready, the shop, the video taking and I think April is the end of Nintendo's fiscal year...Hmmmmmm Good ol' corporate politics.

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50. Posted:

theblackdragon wrote:

Chicken+Brutus wrote:

lz20XX wrote:

Fans just can't be pleased. What's wrong with getting rid of Nintendo points?

Nothing. It's just a decision that the company made, meaning that half of us celebrate it as the best thing ever, half of us scream about it being the start of Nintendo's downfall, and we all end up buying the system anyway.

now why you gotta be bringin' the earth logic up into this thread? no one wants to hear that :(

I do. I just wanna know why fans are complaining :D

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51. Posted:

Personally, I thought points were a better idea. The inclusion a "$" will remind shoppers just how much they're spending on the download service, an option to switch between prices and balance listed in points or $ would be better IMO.

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52. Posted:

Hardy83 wrote:

At least people will now see in dollars how much of a rip off Nintendo's digital pricing is. lol

Also not having the shop ready at launce is DUUUUUUMB and also makes me believe this system is being rushed. I mean the browser won't be ready, the shop, the video taking and I think April is the end of Nintendo's fiscal year...Hmmmmmm Good ol' corporate politics.

So now we're got a downer? no?

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53. Posted:

@Hardy
If anything it sounds like ninty isn't rushing the shop. They're taking they're time with it, so it's ready when it's ready. I'd guess the shop front is ready, but nobody has games ready to put on it yet.

As much as I like the ability to only pay the games I want, this may suck more for those who rely on prepaid cards. If games cost $9.99 instead of $10.00 now you have 1 cent left over. At least with $1-$2 you could cleverly spend with your next point card and have nothing left. Also, more and more States are going to require online outlets charge sales tax. States and local businesses know they're losing a lot of $$ because of this, and with so many states with budget crises, don't expect that tax loophole to be there very long. I wouldn't be surprised to see cardholders double-taxed (does PSN do this for every state?).

On the plus side, if you use a credit/debit card directly, you'll never have anything left over. If ninty gives devs more flexibility on pricing too, we'll all win with cheaper games, sales, etc.

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54. Posted:

TokyoRed wrote:

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While we're talking about pricing structure, I hope Nintendo goes the Apple route and gives the developers the same freedoms that Apple gives App Store developers. I'm doubtful, but I can hope.

Apple doesn't really give developers true freedom. If Apple doesn't like the application they pull it from the app store. Pick up the February issue of MacLife and MacWorld magazines and you can find out about the ugly truth of what goes on behind the scenes at Apple with the developers and the app store. So, no I hope Nintendo doesn't do that. It'd be ugly to see Mario's Big N crushing the free digital market like that. It'd be better if Nintendo went the route of XBOX Live.

Hmmm, guess I haven't heard about that. The main things I was referring to are things like pricing: From what I've heard at least, developers can choose any price they want to make the game (I believe Nintendo currently chooses for them?) and developers can choose at any time to change said price if they want and put it on sale (or I suppose... increase the price....). In addition, devolpers (IIRC) get 70% of all profits made off of the sales of their game. Currently Nintendo makes games sell a certain amount before developers get anything.

And finally the obivous one: give the "eShop" (if that's what they're calling it) some exposure! A lot of people who own DSi's don't seem to even know about the DSi Shop, but how many people with an iThing don't know about the App Store? More exposure=more people using=more people buying=more money=more good games. Because right now, App Store>>>>DSiWare. And that's despite the DSi's advantage of buttons.

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zezhyrule

55. Posted:

@Token: It could be even worse, if they add tax at purchase of game like I have to on the PS3. For me, $10 won't over a $9.99 game, I have to add $10.81 to cover it >_>

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56. Posted:

If the eshop cards are similar to nintendo points cards then I don't mind this.
@hardy83 Maybe nintendo are waiting for enough third parties supporting virtual handheld and 3dsware so that they have a better amount of games ready for the services.

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The approval process for apple's store is a lot more open than Nintendo's. The reason apps get removed are generally because they're horribly offensive or break a term in apple's agreement that they didn't catch originally BECAUSE the store is so open.

Also, according to joystiq, the eShop will have demos. I'll just leave this here....

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/19/3ds-eshop-detailed-virtual-...

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58. Posted:

shinesprite wrote:

Personally, I thought points were a better idea. The inclusion a "$" will remind shoppers just how much they're spending on the download service, an option to switch between prices and balance listed in points or $ would be better IMO.

I can see that as becoming very confusing to have two payment systems and honestly, considering you have prepaid cards, I don't see the point of keeping Nintendo Points.

And on that other point, it's up to people to spend their money responsibly. If it reminds them of how much they've been spending, then so be it.

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59. Posted:

It doesn't make a difference to me. As long as you can still pay via a purchasable card or a credit card then the result is the same. Hopefully this means we will no longer be left with small amounts of credit on our shop accounts, which continually get on our nerves because we can't spend them. :P

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@Token Girl Thanks for clearing that up. That's generally what I thought, but I wasn't really sure. Point is, there's a reason there's so many App Store apps.

On topic, as long as they have prepaid cards, I don't really care whether they are shown as points or dollars. I would like a bit of variety beyond just 2000 points (or $20 since no more points). But whatever.

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