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Topic: 3DS and 3DS XL. Whitch to buy?

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M0rdresh

psxsage wrote:

The Original had/has the issue where there was not enough clearance between the screens when they were closed resulting in scratching of the screen without the use of screen protectors.

The believe that this issue is limited to only the 3DS and not the 3DSXL is a common misconception. It does exist on the 3DSXL as well, though in a far more less pronounced fashion where in most cases it's hardly visible unless viewed at from a certain angle against the light. In some other cases you cannot look past it, I experienced this myself on two 3DSXL's so far. In short, there is also a cloth between my 3DSXL, I too don't like screen protectors

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Love the Gif but isn't that more supporting "green" /rimshot =p

@biglittlejake I second that providing 3d isn't important to the buyer but for me it's a make or break feature.

Chriiis wrote:

Didn't expect to get a bazillion reviews thrown in because that seems a little over the top for this particular topic, heh, as something like that could go either way really is what I meant.

...and oh look, more support for orange, hehehehehehehehehehe.

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I've yet to see that confirmed from a professional source which is what makes me wonder if folks are putting it in there pocket putting too much pressure on it or what... Just never seen it personally (not saying it's impossible) definitely less likely I'd wager.

SeVok wrote:

psxsage wrote:

The Original had/has the issue where there was not enough clearance between the screens when they were closed resulting in scratching of the screen without the use of screen protectors.

The believe that this issue is limited to only the 3DS and not the 3DSXL is a common misconception. It does exist on the 3DSXL as well, though in a far more less pronounced fashion where in most cases it's hardly visible unless viewed at from a certain angle against the light. In some other cases you cannot look past it, I experienced this myself on two 3DSXL's so far. In short, there is also a cloth between my 3DSXL, I too don't like screen protectors

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dumedum

psxsage wrote:

You are of course welcome to disagree but an explanation as to why would be nice. Not only because i am curious (Granted EVERY thing said on this thread well...95% of it is all opinion so there is no right or wrong answer) But it would also help the OP in his decision if you list reasons rather than just saying "I disagree"

As to #5 sure you could leave that in between that screens but that's a bit impractical and is poor design to be needed. And wiping the screen would help if it was only "marks" There are plenty of cases online where it causes unclean able marks otherwise known as scratches. (Or at least marks ingrained into the screen so badly you would have to risk using a chemical cleaner to remove them)

1. The screen size on the original is too small which makes positioning the 3D effect to make it work far more difficult.(Much bigger "sweet" spot on the XL by far) --> never had a problem with the sweet spot. When I tried the XL, I found the effect less striking.
2. The original screen is too small period for my tastes for general viewing. --> well, it's not too small for me. It is sharper, and I like having a small screen. Smartphone screens are always getting bigger, and there's the game pad and tablets, so it's nice to have a small sharp one.
3. The original is VERY uncomfortable to hold due to it's size and design. --> not my experience at all. And the new positioning of the headphone jack in the XL will make it awful for me.
4. The original is a fingerprint magnet and drove me crazy to look at without wiping it off constantly/ --> can't notice this either. The Cosmo Black always looks pristine.
5. The Original had/has the issue where there was not enough clearance between the screens when they were closed resulting in scratching of the screen without the use of screen protectors (which i hate screen protectors personally) --> so here the white sheet thing works perfectly and wiping it off from time to time, so it never bothered me.
6. The original from my OWN experience seemed to be less durable on the hinge side of things as i had two break on me with VERY gentle use (opened and closed a lot but very gently so never in pockets never by the corners etc) the XL feels more solid IMO and the hinges feel more sturdy.--> well they haven't broken for me, never had this issue. I like it that it can rotate however I want, and not fixed positions like the xl.
7. The Battery on the XL lasts longer (for for a handheld is a HUGE thing) for me using 3D around an hour or more longer this may be more if not using 3D. --> battery seemed fine to me. I like it that I can tell whether 3d is on or not during a game, which is something you cannot do with the xl, so this helps I can always change to 2d when it's not 3d anyway.
8. The home/select etc buttons being that cheap plastic strip and not dedicated buttons feels really cheap and are annoying to use..i MUCH prefer the XL's dedicated Buttons. --> i like the original's better, there's something fun about them not being obstructive.

So all in all, taking the better resolution, the compactibility, the better sound, the more glossy look and its "hi techy not fisher pricey look", I prefer the 3DS much more than the XL...

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psxsage

@dumedum I can't say i agree with many/any of your responses but at least you explained why you felt as you did which is what i had asked out of my curiosity so Thumbs up for that. Opposing viewpoints is what the OP wanted after all one would assume.

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Lalivero

@psxsage It means they could be making that paper by releasing it here. (-:

It looks like I'm not the only one who noticed that the XL marks the upper screen as well(though from what I see it is more so with the circle pad.

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psxsage

Chriiis wrote:

@psxsage It means they could be making that paper by releasing it here. (-:

I know

But in all seriousness the Japanese/American cultures are so wildly different i think an orange color would be as hard of a sell to the public here as Pink is (and end up heavily discounted as most pink electronics do) i of course could be wildly wrong but i can't think of any mega selling Orange colored electronic anything here in the US. I'd be quite curious as to sales if they ever do release it here.

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@dumedum I agree with most of your points, especially about the screen and 3D being sharper and it not being uncomfortable(though I have slim hands, so go figure). I honestly don't like the home/start/select 'strip' on either as they both feel cheap though. I remember my original aqua blue was a fingerprint magnet but, luckily, my black one isn't as bad it seems.

@psxsage Well then you know it at least sells if it it's produced period(has happened with different consoles) and hey, Japan obviously has taste, unlike here. They have the time to make all these absolutely hideous 3DS XL models like the blue and red Pokémon XY ones, yet Japan gets the black Charizard and Gold XY one; Hmmm....they could at least make the attempt.

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maceng

psxsage wrote:

Xiao_Pai wrote:

Are the XL's speakers really quieter than the original's? Been thinking about upgrading because my 3DS's shoulder buttons are wearing out it seems.

Noticeably This is one of the ONLY things i preferred about the 3DS OG model,that said i tend to use high quality headphones anyways which Blow either models speakers away, i was never impressed by the original models speakers either. But yes the originals speakers if i were to estimate?(Pulling numbers out of my ass here) Are about 25-30% Louder?

Yes, about 25% seems right.

I own 3 3Ds (a Cosmo, the Zelda one and a Princess Peach special edition), as well as 9 3DS XL (a blue one, a pink one; blue, red and Pikachu pokemon: the zelda one, Mario and Luigi, Disney's and a recently bought Animal Crossing one).

My son and I played a lot in the Cosmo one and my daughter on the Princess Peach one. No problem whatsoever on neither. Just a bit cramped (I have huge hands).
The Pikachu one has very soft shoulder buttons that don't click well. The blue one, after a very nasty fall, lost 80% of the audio, so I use headphones with it (it is the workhorse of the house as other are for show, or when we have large groups of people playing in the house).

The battery life and screen and comfort of the 3DS XL are heaven sent. The small weight, sharper screens are the only reason while I we haven't sold the Cosmo 3DS. The difference in price is negligible: I have seen Target and Fry's selling the 3DSXL at 170. Even in japan, where they value too much the space, teh 3DSXL have been outselling the small 3DS for more than a year.

I just hope Nintendo steps up the resolution of their games to make better use of the larger screens.

maceng

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Also, Nintendo just stopped showing any info on their main page about the normal. They just compare the 3DSXL vs the 2DS!!

maceng

maceng

Chriiis wrote:

I guess I have a place for the aqua blue because it was my first 3DS and that ^ looks pretty good, but how can someone not like this? D:

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I want that, no, scratch that, I want THOSE!!!!

My wife says that it looks a bit gaudy, but I LOVE my Zelda 3DSXL. And the hinges (do not know why) are so tight while opening and closing!!

Also, I love my Pikachu one but it doesn't go out of the house (as well as the Pink Princess 3DS, bought a 360 euros at eBay). next on my list if I win the lottery (or a large contract)? the Charizard Japanese 3DS XL.

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psxsage wrote:

Chriiis wrote:

@psxsage It means they could be making that paper by releasing it here. (-:

I know

But in all seriousness the Japanese/American cultures are so wildly different i think an orange color would be as hard of a sell to the public here as Pink is (and end up heavily discounted as most pink electronics do) i of course could be wildly wrong but i can't think of any mega selling Orange colored electronic anything here in the US. I'd be quite curious as to sales if they ever do release it here.

A lot of phones (house phones) are colored, there has been several orange and pink computers in teh past that have sold extremely well (Vaio laptops, Apple's iMac, and so on).

maceng

psxsage

maceng wrote:

psxsage wrote:

Chriiis wrote:

@psxsage It means they could be making that paper by releasing it here. (-:

I know

But in all seriousness the Japanese/American cultures are so wildly different i think an orange color would be as hard of a sell to the public here as Pink is (and end up heavily discounted as most pink electronics do) i of course could be wildly wrong but i can't think of any mega selling Orange colored electronic anything here in the US. I'd be quite curious as to sales if they ever do release it here.

A lot of phones (house phones) are colored, there has been several orange and pink computers in teh past that have sold extremely well (Vaio laptops, Apple's iMac, and so on).

Really? Is that why almost every computer or electronic you see on clearance here is pink or orange or some Odd color? More or less the same reason the only 3ds colors almost everyone has in Stock is pink and some purple.

As far as the older imacs you are referencing the really popular one was nicknamed "blueberry" for a reason the more odd colors weren't nearly as big of a demand. And eventually they also went to more typical colors like white aluminum, blacks and so forth. The market here is just wildly different due to cultural norms etc. I mean Hentai harem games are very popular in Japan do you think we should try those here also just because they are popular in Japan? I get your personal desire for the color but since they region lock their handheld from a business prospective I completely get them not releasing certain colors/editions here.

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M0rdresh

The build quality and choice of components of the original 3DS is better in my opinion.
It just looks far more next-gen and I live the black glass around the screen for that extra contrast.
One chooses the original 3DS for sharpness and superb audio quality for such small design and of course it's size.

I have them both, for different reasons, but my favourite remains the original one.

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psxsage

SeVok wrote:

The build quality and choice of components of the original 3DS is better in my opinion.
It just looks far more next-gen and I live the black glass around the screen for that extra contrast.
One chooses the original 3DS for sharpness and superb audio quality for such small design and of course it's size.

I have them both, for different reasons, but my favourite remains the original one.

Much of what you say (and i say) about the topic is subjective and hence has no right or wrong response really, but the one thing i really need to call you out on is ""superb audio quality"" The audio quality on ALL of the 3DS/2DS versions is AWFUL so the speakers on the 3DS compared to the 3DSXL is literally the difference between Poor and crap. Even a 10$ set of JVC Flats literally make the 3DS sound 5X better than the built in speakers,honestly every handheld i can think of in history has awful speakers but the 3DS in specific has horrible sound in general across all models. Use an even better headset around entry level such as Portapros and honestly you'll realize exactly how much you are missing using the horrid stock 3DS speakers. To put it bluntly the 3DS speakers max volume sucks unless you are more or less alone in a church setting..? The Mids suck the lows suck the highs suck...I know it's limited by form factor and all but i have a 15$ Bluetooth speaker the size of an Advil bottle that even puts the 3DS speakers to massive shame.

Simply put if Audio quality is a concern headphones are really required. (and it's a damn shame the 3DS didn't get Bluetooth as an external wireless speaker would have been grand and or wireless headsets.)

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M0rdresh

psxsage wrote:

one thing i really need to call you out on is ""superb audio quality"" The audio quality on ALL of the 3DS/2DS versions is AWFUL so the speakers on the 3DS compared to the 3DSXL is literally the difference between Poor and crap.

I do not agree, I'm not the only one who sighted the remarkable sound quality of the original 3DS speakers. Again as said, considering the size of the speakers. One cannot ignore the form factor when evaluating the performance of something, especially the heavily restricted space available, thus to compare it with JVC flats which is 1. an entirily different device, 2. supports speakers roughly 300% to 400% larger due to more space is comparing apples and oranges. And I have not come across speakers of similar size and restrictions (the flat aspect of the top screen for example) that outperforms the 3DS speakers. And headsets and their quality is comparing apples and oranges...

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When the 3ds came out, the general consensus around here was that the audio was kinda bad and I agree with that, even my DSi sounds better than all the 3ds models I have owned.

It goes like...

3ds is low, XL is lower, 2ds is louder but mono.

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psxsage

SeVok wrote:

psxsage wrote:

one thing i really need to call you out on is ""superb audio quality"" The audio quality on ALL of the 3DS/2DS versions is AWFUL so the speakers on the 3DS compared to the 3DSXL is literally the difference between Poor and crap.

I do not agree, I'm not the only one who sighted the remarkable sound quality of the original 3DS speakers. Again as said, considering the size of the speakers. One cannot ignore the form factor when evaluating the performance of something, especially the heavily restricted space available, thus to compare it with JVC flats which is 1. an entirily different device, 2. supports speakers roughly 300% to 400% larger due to more space is comparing apples and oranges. And I have not come across speakers of similar size and restrictions (the flat aspect of the top screen for example) that outperforms the 3DS speakers. And headsets and their quality is comparing apples and oranges...

While a different pricing category of course the HTC ONE (M8) phone speakers blow the 3ds away. For that matter even the little tiny speakers on the budget Samsung Galaxy tab 3 7 inch which is anywhere from 149$-179$ are definitely louder and Id argue more pronounced and the speakers are really same tiny on that thing (not great speakers by any stretch but side by side the 3ds I'd still take them)

The thing is though also it wouldn't really matter if we are judging the device due to size or not poor is poor period. Regardless of why it's poor it still hurts the experience of whatever game it is your playing and sound is a big part of that. I can't think how much I would have missed over the years if I was stuck using poor speakers like the 3ds with games like castle Vania SOTN, or battlefield or even most of the jrpg games with their pop rock style music like in persona 4 or conception 2 etc.

Simply put the why doesn't matter as much as the fact it "is" the XL sound is worse but the 3ds is poor to begin with, even in a quiet room a <10$ earbud set easily 4-5X out does the 3ds volume and clarity which for those who care about sound in their games at all (which considering how much it adds to games I can't imagine not caring).. Makes the 3ds vs XL speakers kind of a moot thing since as I originally said it's literally comparing poor to crap.

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Jim_Purcell

In a silent room I find the XL's sound to be just fine. With any kind of ambient noise it tends to be canceled out. But this is a pretty typical problem with small speakers. My iPad is the same way. God help you if you want to show your friend a movie trailer in crowded breakroom and you don't have earbuds nearby.

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