Topic: 3DS already failing to live to hype?

So I wont be able to watch mediocre movies on a screen far smaller then movies should be seen on? Oh poo.

The source you cited just stated that Iwata wasn't sure whether or not to fully implement the feature. So what? It's quite a while from being released and jumping from one extreme to another is pointless when no one even has the console yet.

In all honesty, as cool as the movies looked at E3, it's not something I can't live without. Would be a nice bonus feature, but that's about it for me.

@Chicken
It's also about paying for features we may not use. If every device one owns does everything, then you're wasting a lot of money. I have no problem with Nintendo going the cheap route and being solely a gaming machine.

What I want from the Wii2 and the 3DS is a device that improves on gaming. I have an iPhone (and many more people have an iPod) for movies and music on the go. When purchasing digital movies becomes as streamlined as the digital music industry is now (DRM free and universal formats, so I can put the movie file on any device I own), why should I waste money on a Nintendo multimedia hub when I can already watch movies on my PS3/iPod? I'd rather not pay PS3 prices for my next Nintendo machine.

Honestly, your best bet now, in order to get a digital copy of a movie you can play on any device is just to buy the DVD or Blu-Ray, and who doesn't already have a DVD player hooked up to their TV? Eventually it will sort itself out and we'll be able to enjoy the convenience of not having physical disks piled up everywhere, but how long did it take for music to do that?

Bottom line, if Nintendo stays cheap, people can get both the expensive multimedia hub AND the gaming system. People who can't afford both can get a $20 DVD player (or Blu-Ray player, if we're talking 5 years down the line) and the Wii2. With portables, it's a little trickier, since 1 device is more portable than 2, so it'd be nicer to see movie playback on the 3DS. Still, you don't want the extra features to make it cost so much that people with Smartphones/iPod Touches/Classics feel like they can't justify buying both.

@Token Girl:
A lot of people complain about that in regard to Xbox Live as well, the majority of the functionality that has been added has been non-gaming content but the majority of users have XBL Gold so they can play online so whilst the new stuff is nice most people didn't ask for it. I especially saw the complaints when it came to the XBL price hike.

I could careless about Movies on 3DS, or anything but gaming on a Nintendo console... just imagine how much Nintendo will ask for them price wise!

Does any system ever live up to prelauch hype? Do you really think 3DS can play Resident Evil 5 with Playstation 3 graphics? Bring on 3D Paper Mario a 3D port of Mario 64 (now that we have a functioning analog stick on a portable) and a new 3D Mario Kart.. oh and a 2.5D Metroid and Ill be perfectly happy

I was always mainly hyped about the 3DS due to its autostereoscopic screen and vastly improved graphical power over the DS and PSP. Then I found out about StreetPass and got really excited.

Anything else is rather peripheral for me. Frankly, WaltzElf's original post was jumping the gun on the matter imo. I don't recall 3D movies being confirmed for the 3DS, only rumoured. Nor do I think watching movies on a portable would be an incredibly practical or satisfying experience. Multimedia experiences on gaming devices are a way of value-adding and getting customers to pay more (whether it is the initial investment or through later product purchases) and I don't appreciate it enough for it to be a selling point for me. I already have a large television, surround sound system and DVD player for when I want to watch movies.

The 3DS will only fail to live up to the hype if its games are bad, and there's next to no chance of that judging from its pedigree and upcoming catalogue.

P.S.

There is still about five months left before the Nintendo 3DS launch. That's plenty of time for Nintendo to fix any problem they have.

ok, i dont need the movies but it would be nice, but not likely if we got some cool anime movies on it, not saying in 3D either (you CAN tun off the 3D)

You don't need movies, but any extra features would be welcome with open arms.

Specifically an online system that doesn't suck, but again... Not holding my breath for that because.... drum roll Nintendo hasn't said a peep about friend codes, meaning they aren't getting rid of them. If they were they would've told us because they know how happy it would make us.
Instead the silence says it all.

Hardy83 does have a point. They haven't said yes or no about friend codes yet, and that has me worried. You'd think that would be the first thing they'd mention about online, supposing they actually take it out. It's the Achilles heel of the Wii's and DS' online system, and I'm sure everyone would love to see them removed. I hope Nintendo doesn't continue to be stubborn and leave in such a poorly implimented feature.

This, although I don't think that I'd even enjoy watching movies on the 3DS.

Iwata or Miyamoto, not sure which, already recently acknowledged the Wii and DS's weaknesses in the online department and that they would be working to improve it for the 3DS. No details yet of course, but we can at least expect something better than the travesty that is friend codes.

Seriously, only 64 friends in Clubhouse Games? I maxed that out fast thanks to joining a CHG game club a couple years ago. I had to keep deleting old people to add new ones. Terrible system.

I was hoping for a better online system, considering Im a HUGE online freak when it comes to console gaming. But didnt they say they were hoping to improve online gaming on the 3DS?

I too want a better online, if you've seen any of my baby rants on this site.
And yes, Iwata DID say he wants to improve online for the 3DS, however the first thing that comes to many peoples minds (besides the horrible interface, slowness, and over pricing) is the friend codes. As the other poster said, it killed many gamers even caring about online for Wii or DSi because of the stupid stupid codes.

To me, a big selling point to get "gamers" back on board with Nintendo would be announcing that they are getting rid of it. Hiding the fact they are removing it would do nothing, it would make parents happy because they probably don't even know how friend codes work to begin with, and gamers are hesitant about it.

So, my guess is, they WILL improve the online system. Make it easier to navigate, smoother and faster, but keep friend codes. Make friend lists bigger for games and the system, but still keep the stupid codes and kill any progress made.

I know I'm being pessimistic, but I have lost ALL faith in Nintendo NOT botching online. They haven't done it right yet and I see future where they do. It's pathetic that Apple has a better online gaming platform then Nintendo and I see nothing changing that.
They can make games no issues, they can make hardware (even though it tends to be a generation behind on something), but they fail miserably with online, and always have. Their going to screw something up.

Baby rant over. Sorry. lol

That epic.

@Chicken A com-pu-ter??

Or maybe they never mentioned because...they're not using them

Or they will include friend codes in your 3DS alone and make them 40 characters long while we enjoy our friend codeless 3DS's

The problem is that the 3DS is now close enough to release that Nintendo won't be making any more massive announcements about functionality and.... well there's nothing to indicate the online is really any better than what we've previously seen.

There will still be download limits - the 3DS doesn't have enough internal memory, and a 2GB SD card is an indication that Nintendo considers that enough... this is something the PSP flogs Nintendo at, and they should have fixed that one.

The 3DS is still incapable of "talking" with any other non-3DS device in any meaningful way. Considering Apple, Sony and Microsoft (via Windows Phone 7) have an integrated online service that talks to other devices/ PCs people have at home, this is lagging.

There's no indication of achievements, online leaderboards or any of the other fun stuff that people have now come to expect from their consoles... and whether individuals care for them or not is irrelevant - they've become important features to support.

There's no indication that the online experience will be for anything more than online games and digital downloads. The cool thing about the PS3 is that the online service also includes social (Home), media (Mubi, Netflix, catch-up TV, Vidzone), avatars, backgrounds, demos and Facebook connectivity. The digital downloads and online play are relatively small parts of the overall pie.

Nintendo is limited in its ability to do a lot of that because, unlike the Sonys and Microsofts of the world, Nintendo is a focused company, of couse.

"The problem is that the 3DS is now close enough to release that Nintendo won't be making any more massive announcements about functionality and.... well there's nothing to indicate the online is really any better than what we've previously seen."

Hm, alot can happen in 4-6 months. You'd be suprised.
"There will still be download limits - the 3DS doesn't have enough internal memory, and a 2GB SD card is an indication that Nintendo considers that enough... this is something the PSP flogs Nintendo at, and they should have fixed that one."

You assume without knowing anything, but yeah I agree. I'm worried about this one.

"The 3DS is still incapable of "talking" with any other non-3DS device in any meaningful way. Considering Apple, Sony and Microsoft (via Windows Phone 7) have an integrated online service that talks to other devices/ PCs people have at home, this is lagging."

Tbh, I don't really care. I'd be happy if I could talk with other 3DSers. Talking to people with other devices isn't all that necessary to me.

"There's no indication of achievements, online leaderboards or any of the other fun stuff that people have now come to expect from their consoles... and whether individuals care for them or not is irrelevant - they've become important features to support."

Lol. You assume this once again. I personally don't care if they're there or not. They don't enhance gameplay in anyway. It's only a good feature for completionist.

"There's no indication that the online experience will be for anything more than online games and digital downloads. The cool thing about the PS3 is that the online service also includes social (Home), media (Mubi, Netflix, catch-up TV, Vidzone), avatars, backgrounds, demos and Facebook connectivity. The digital downloads and online play are relatively small parts of the overall pie."

They haven't said no, they haven't said yes.

"Nintendo is limited in its ability to do a lot of that because, unlike the Sonys and Microsofts of the world, Nintendo is a focused company, of couse."

You're right.

It's funny that since Nintendo have dropped the ball twice people assume there is no more revival.

Hm, alot can happen in 4-6 months. You'd be suprised.

If it was the kind of feature that would turn Nintendo's online fortunes around, they would have announced it as a major feature already. Companies do not do the massive surprise reveal in the modern environment - the big features are announced up front.

You assume without knowing anything, but yeah I agree. I'm worried about this one.

This is my analysis based on the news that has been out there, and what I myself has seen/ heard from Nintendo.

Tbh, I don't really care. I'd be happy if I could talk with other 3DSers. Talking to people with other devices isn't all that necessary to me.

Tbh, it doesn't matter what is necessary for you or not. There's a reason all the other companies in the world are looking an interconnectedness. Nintendo can't, I get that, but that doesn't mean it's not a problem.

Lol. You assume this once again. I personally don't care if they're there or not. They don't enhance gameplay in anyway. It's only a good feature for completionist.

It doesn't matter what you personally think. Achievements are successful on a host of other platforms (Steam, Apple, PS3, Xbox), so clearly the masses want them, enjoy them, or tolerate them enough so they still buy the consoles and games.

This is not personal opinion. This is the trends that the gaming industry is following, and Nintendo appears to be deliberately snubbing them. It might work, or just as possibly, Nintendo might crash and burn.

They haven't said no, they haven't said yes.

Again, Nintendo would have been forward with major features such as these.

It's funny that since Nintendo have dropped the ball twice people assume there is no more revival.

Actually, I had every confidence that Nintendo could get it right this time around, but it seems that Nintendo has not invested in the R & D it actually needed to, other than coming up with a 3D effect that may or may not end up being a gimmick.