GTA4 the best game ever? PUR-LEASE.

I agree OOT ftw!

To be fair guys none of us have played it yet (I don't think) and from what I've read about this new GTA game it really does sound like the next best thing since sliced bread. Guess I can't tell you until I've seen everything the game has to offer like I have done with OOT - but my journey starts midnight tonight.

GTA is a chav's game, nuff said.

Erm - I see where you are coming from but - it's still considered to be one of the best gaming franchises (not most popular, we're going off genuine credit and accolade for the games) ever.

whether it'll be the best or not, its going to be very good, can't believe i'm gonna miss out on this....

Well, I will be buying a PS3 soon because of this game.

i dunno, OOT is my favorite zelda game, if not best game ever, you see a lot of refrences to OOT in other zelda titles because it's that great. (personally they should re-release it for the wii, but update graphics, etc. into a new game)

WHAT! (Pocketim faints then comes back to his sences) I can't believe Zelda is getting beaten by a stupid game when you just run around the place and kill people because its considered "Gangster"...

I've played GTA4 for a good 4 or 5 hours now and while its not as polished as expected it is very good.

OOT is now - the second best game ever.

GTA IV best ever? cough cough The freezing problem in the game alone is enough to give this game a 6/10 instead of a 10/10. Additionally, Zelda OOT has been the ultimate classic and will stay that way. Unlike GTA IV, Zelda appeals to all gamers, including younger audiences, with no controversial graphic violence, sex, drugs, language, etc. Zelda OOT never had any freezing problems or bugs. Zelda games have always had amazing soundtracks and OOT is certainly no exception. Therefore, GTA IV does not stand a chance to ever overtake Zelda OOT. The only developer that could ever make a better game is Nintendo.

Unfortunatly banzaigtv, the problem is that for some reason critics ARE rating it better than zelda.
I completely agree with you that it shouldn't, but for some reason it's taking number one.
Here's my opinion. Ocarina of time personally isn't my favourite. It's a great game, but i even liked Majoras Mask better along with lots of other amazing games, and I think that GTA IV doesn't even stand up to all those other games. As great as GTA IV is, there's no way it's the best!
Shows you what our society has become. When OOT came out a game like GTA would have flopped, and now somehow it's number one.

Then they should let the fans vote on the best game. That way, the players can help decide which game should be the best instead of having just the critics decide for themselves.

Yea, personally i like to look at the player scores more than the critics. Critics will score a game better than they should, or lower than they should. The problem is just that people can mess with scores while critics scores are set in stone.

I'm so torn. GTA4 is a very, very, very good game in a different way to OOT. GTA4 has definitely set the standard in story telling, character development and voice acting for me.

I hate the way it pretty much tells you what to do all the time however. It's not as flawless as some reviews have stated but it's still up there - right up there.

i happen to agree with banzaigtv and Pocketim. wile sometimes it's fun to just run around and blow stuff up, games like that have never appealed to me and only 1 person out of all the people i know acually wanted GTA4. just for a little statistic, that is out of about ten people.

(no edit?) by games like that i mean the GTA series